Shaolin

Well to me joint locks = grappling Where are all the Aikido people out there?????????

Also left out Wing Chun...the only art that ledgend has, was created by a woman and named after a woman. For those who don't know Wing Chun was Bruce's original system that he studied in Hong Kong. Jim _________________ Moy Yat Ving Tsun Rest in peace dear teacher, dear friend, dear brother, and dear father: Moy Yat Sifu [ This Message was edited by: Shaolin on 2002-02-24 09:05 ]

JKD was really Bruce's attempt to grow beyond where he was at a certain point. He stated that he knew that he could not beat his seniors with his Wing Chun (which he had not finished) and so he needed another way. JKD is that other way. It involved applying, to a large degree, Wing Chun concepts to other arts and finding a common thread that would allow Bruce to continue to grow. When Bruce began using JKD he already had a very strong base in traditional arts as everyone should. Many teach it as he did and others teach it differently - leaving out the Jun Fan boxing. As to whether it is a style...I'll leave that to my Si-Bok. Jim _________________ Moy Yat Ving Tsun Rest in peace dear teacher, dear friend, dear brother, and dear father: Moy Yat Sifu [ This Message was edited by: Shaolin on 2002-02-24 08:21 ]

Yes this is from the 'chemical dump' that happens when you feel threatened etc. It can be controlled to a large extent though, especially if you are aware of it. There are seminars that deal with it: http://www.fastdefense.org/ Check it out. Jim

I do not study Aikido as of yet but I have been doing some research and plan to join, what looks like a really good school I found in NYC soon to broaden my martial art horizons. I have come to understand that practicing techniques with realistic attacks is critical to getting the techniques to work right. As I understand it there is no attack in Aikido so this seems to present a kind of Catch-22 situation. So how do those of you who train get good attacks in with the training? Do some schools teach attack or how to attack as the uke? Jim _________________ Moy Yat Ving Tsun Rest in peace dear teacher, dear friend, dear brother, and dear father: Moy Yat Sifu [ This Message was edited by: Shaolin on 2002-02-24 05:59 ]

Okay well if you really want to start leaning a little Wing Chun then one must learn how to do the punch found in Chasing Fists or the Chain Punch exercise. Here is a gif of someone doing the exercise in question (not from my clan): http://www.dallaswingtsun.com/punch.gif It's important that the punches stay on the same vertical line: The Centerline and the punch going out rises slightly and always goes out over the one returning...it is said the fist returning 'drops' to allow room for the next one; this goes along with the idea of relaxing the arms. Also try to keep the elbows in and under the punch as much as possible. Also the striking area of the fist is the bottom three knuckles with the smallest one leading..the wrist tilted (or snapped) up and locked on impact. First get in a Wing Chun horse: Stand with both feet together - bend the knees and then open into a wide V by moving the toes as far apart as is comfortable by pivoting on the heels. Now to the reverse and move the heels apart by pivoting on the balls of your feet. You should now have the feet about shoulder width apart with toes pointed in. Lastly tuck your butt in by tightening your glutes...now you should be in some variation of a Yee Jee Kim young Ma...goat grabbing horse stance. Now start the punch. Slowly at first more or less like in the gif. Place both fists on the Centerline one about a fist away from your chest the other extended out on the Centerline. Now try doing the punch like in the gif. Here's some more info on the punch: For more info check out this site: http://www.wingchunkuen.com/ Feel free to ask more questions. I'll be around for a little while longer and back again in 24 hours after work. Good luck, Jim _________________ Moy Yat Ving Tsun Rest in peace dear teacher, dear friend, dear brother, and dear father: Moy Yat Sifu [ This Message was edited by: Shaolin on 2002-02-27 01:16 ]

Hi Jack! Yes it's true that you can't really can learn Chi-Sao from books etc. But you might still try a few exercises from a book or tape such as Pak Sao, which is a first step toward Chi-Sao, If I can help let me know. The purpose of Chi Sao, in short, is to train the student how to deal with an enemy who has interrupted your 'attack' For example if you throw a punch at someone's nose there is only a couple of things that can happen: 1. They get hit…keep hitting them 2. You miss and hit air…keep throwing punches 3. Your punch encounters an obstruction…..use Chi-Sao! In case 3 the person has managed to get in the way of your hit with their hand or arm or body etc. Chi Sao trains automatic reflexes in response to *touch* so when a Wing Chun person encounters this type of resistance his hands know exactly how to take control of the enemy through energy manipulation and continue the attack...we stick and follow the opponent - we do not retract the strike once contact has been made. Shaolin systems especially Wing Chun always finish an attack and continue to stick with an enemy using everything they do against them. You may be interested to know that in addition to Chi-Sao Wing Chun also has something called Chi-Gerk or 'Sticking Legs' Wing Chun also is quite good with it's feet and using kicks to ultimately control, trap and immobilize legs/feet. The theories of Wing Chun will conflict somewhat with your TKD as it uses Centerline attacks and control in both it's leg and hand techniques. I am sure that you will find someone around where you live who can show you the basics or more (I'll take a look too.) Jim _________________ Moy Yat Ving Tsun Rest in peace dear teacher, dear friend, dear brother, and dear father: Moy Yat Sifu [ This Message was edited by: Shaolin on 2002-02-24 01:07 ]

Wing Chun is pleanty flashy in terms of giving off a *wow factor*.. Blitzing an enemy with 5 hits per second while you control and *hold them up* is quite amazing. Wing Chun was designed, if you believe the story, to be the key that unlocks all other Shaolin styles, it was also designed to be learned fast - never doubt it's effectiveness. It is, of course, also 100% street ready and loaded with parries. Jim

Just wondering why pics are allowed but not in sigs?? Jim

Is this the reason or is there really a rule concerning this? I was unable to find any rule about this. Posting pics is easy and is explained in the FAQ, in the html section. Jim

Oh...why is that?

Hi NightWalk8r! Welcome to the arts! What are you looking to get out of your training? Self Defense? Exercise? Tournaments? Any thoughts on styles or schools? Jim _________________ http://www.moyyat.com/images/flower-small.gif Rest in peace dear teacher, dear friend, dear brother, and dear father: Moy Yat Sifu [ This Message was edited by: Shaolin on 2002-02-23 03:08 ]

Greetings to all! My name is Jim and I am from the NYC Metro area. I've been involed with Martial Arts in one way or another for about 12 years and so far I have studied Shotokan Karate, a little Uechi Ryu and Wing Chun Kung-Fu, Wing Chun mostly though. I am looking forward to joining an Aikido School soon and am looking forward to the experience. Jim [ This Message was edited by: Shaolin on 2002-02-23 03:01 ]