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Yeah i havent actually learned any of these kill strikes (probably for good reason hehe) but ive been told that there are a few that they use. i mean these units must be prepared for hand to hand but they are usually never in hand to hand my brother told me.

Yeah there arent any schools that teach it near me either. i hate it because there arent really any schools near me that i want ot go to. how frustrating.

Yeah they do use a lot of that in the army but they delve more into the philippines rather than anything else. sayoc kali for knife combat as well as grappling and ground fighting just because its so damn useful. but they do use kill strikes in the special forces. it isnt all just to set up throws i mean they learn how to immobolize and deal out quite painful blows. the thing about them that makes them so good is that not only do they use and practice very practical techniques but they are really strong and intense which is why you have SEALs and greenies being only having 6-8 weekes of combat training yet they whoop more * than almost anyone. does anyone know if there have been ex soldiers in competetive fighting? and if so who because ive never heard of anyone.

True but what im saying that Ali was revered as the best. in my opinion there is no such thing as a best seeing as how there is always somebody better, its just the way it goes. The truth is you cant compare fighters of different generations because things are just plain different now and theres no real way to prove anything. you must remember that so many of the modern fighters today are who they are because of people like Ali and Bruce. They revolutionized what they did.

Yeah he's right. everyone loses. even muhammad ali got defeated but he was still the best. the only person i can think of who never lost was bruce lee. he was in several fights i guess you could say. i mean he lost that street fight when he was a kid but i mean come on he wasnt even really in martial arts then. im sure theres going to be some rematch down the road. i dont think jones is going to quit because he got beat one time at least i hope he doesnt. i think a defeat can be good because it will motivate you to train harder.

Heh, being in a real fight is tougher than most people think. i ean u can prepare all you want but when its go time ur all nervous unless of course uve done it many times. i remember when i got punked down for the first time a couple of years ago. fortunately for me though my brother was there. this was before i started training. point being that imora is right, u need to practice all aspects to be successful however u dont necessarily need to ever be in a real fight to know all of this. just practicing and learning about the art of fighting is enough i think to grasp the concepts of what a real fight would be like and what u need to do to prepare for it.

No they do teach footwork in the military. they of course delve into grappling as well because in their own words "nearly any confrontation commences with grappling or does very quickly" or something like that. it is true that they emphasize these principles but they use things like kinfe and stick combat to not only offer resourcefulness for any situation u may be in, but it also it helps to increase your unarmed ablilites as well. heres a good site describing it. http://www.blackbeltmag.com/archives/blackbelt/1985/dec85/greenberet/greenberet.html My brother is a soldier and a good 75% of my fighting ive learned from him.

God can they really be that much? I mean i figured they got up into 4 figures but damn. katanas are badass though and i maintain that they are the single deadliest bladed weapon in existence. just my opinion though.

Ok just to clear things up. there are a few styles i dont know too much about. what exactly does kyokushin emphasize and whatre the techniques like?

wow. this is a pretty interesting topic. i would join in on the actual topic at hand but i guessid be a little late. oh well. some good points said. this is a pretty good martial arts forum.

I personally would have kept the diplomacy going until they swung first. then there is no issue. thats self defense just about anyway you look at it. i would never initiate physical confrontation with another. and if they are the ones who back down without even taking a swing, then who's the punk?

I personally would say that i do in fact practice highly practical and combat oriented martial arts...ive never had one school that i learned everything from...the school i learn at now teaches me but ive only been there a short time. its a good school and i practice a lot so i would say that ive gotten more out of it than most who go there in such a short period of time. i also practice with my friends quite a bit under a different art. most of the stuff ive learned though ive gotten off of my brother. so yeah i lean more towards the more combatative styles id say. whoa sorry to go on a whole rant there. hehe.