bustr

Did anyone see "You Gotta See This" on Fox Sports? They had a brief segment of shin kicking competitions in Gloucestershire, England. I didn't realize this game was still played. Does anyone know of any websites?

Maing Yul Jung Has anyone heard of this guy? Does he have a website? Thanks

Take a look at the Chapasarat Manual. http://www.usmta.com/Old-Modern-Muay-Thai-Frame.htm The round kicks so common in muay thai are not present. Also see: http://www.fightingarts.com/content02/bubishi_enter_1.shtml I train in Silat myself so I'm not down-playing Asia's contribution to MA. The fact is that if it wasn't for Asian martial arts then Western martial arts would be long forgotten. My point is that you don't have to look any further than the nearest karate school to see Western MA.

I have some tapes showing old Shaolin techniques that have virtually no Western influence. They come through Indonesia as opposed to modern China. Anyway the pronating punches seen in modern karate and kungfu are absent. There are no high lateral kicks only upward snaps with various parts of the foot. There are no spinning techniques or ariel kicks of any kind. I personally believe that when you train in karate and learn lateral, ariel or circular techniques that you are learning things these systems picked up from France. Europe and Asia have been in contact for a long time. There really is no such thing as an ethnic martial art. Most are composites and have been so for the last 100 or so years. Some of these articles deal with Africa and Australia. They're all worth a look. http://www.alliancemartialarts.com http://www.etp.phys.tue.nl/bertus/schermen/types.htm http://www.savateaustralia.com/index.htm http://flybynight.korolev.com/schoolofarms/ http://ejmas.com/jwma/jwmaart_wolf_0500.html http://www.the-exiles.org/ http://ejmas.com/jmanly/jmanlyart_gorn_0401.htm http://ejmas.com/jwma/jwmaart_steenput_1000.html http://www.osmalandrosdemestretouro.bigstep.com/

Any pics?

Anybody know of any sites with some old Muay Thai pics from 50-100 years ago? Pics of rock carvings dating back further in time are of interest too. Thanks

DBZHUB Keep looking online. In the meantime check out this website. http://www.trs-direct.com

I'd guess boxing or wrestling. TKD may have alot of members but for the most part it can't be considered a MARTIAL ART.

Easy to make threats from 3000 miles away.

TKDGirl Your friends are partially correct. TKD is a bad choice for self-defense. However, hapkido and aikido don't exactly have a fearsome reputation either. That's not to say that they are a lousy choice for SD. They may be good styles to learn. I really don't know. That said I'd recommend looking for an MMA, Silat or Jeet Kune Do school. Even if you have to travel one or two weekends a month for training in another city you will benefit more from that type of training. I did a search on google and came up with a few links in Miami: http://www.twindragonsmartialarts.com/kuntao_family.htm http://www.fightzone.com/ You should also check out: http://www.taijiworld.com/download/Free_books.htm Erle Montaigue has done the most research in the area of psychological conditioning and always answers his email. [ This Message was edited by: bustr on 2002-01-18 16:56 ]

"I care because someone who think their cardio class enables them to defend themselves may do something stupid on the street and get seriously injured...If you instruct them you should care about the attitudes of your students when they leave the gym or dojo." That's called natural selection. If a person can't see the difference then showing them true MA will not help. Besides it's not like kid's karate hasn't already disgraced MA enough.

I recommend Chris Clugston's material (https://www.trs-direct.com) for situational self-defense and John Malterer's stuff (https://www.kingdragon.net) for free fighting.

TRS has a free report. I recommend getting on their mailing list. I've bought material from them and really enjoyed it. http://trsdirect.com/free/index.htm http://trsdirect.com/free/get_free_report.htm

1st Black in the Jack Hebert karate system (Offshoot of Shotokan) 1st Brown in another local org 3 years of Eskrima and Pentjak Silat 6th Kyu in Ninpo

Here are some interesting links on the subject: http://www.chez.com/pancrace/iupad/index.html http://tkdtutor.com/02-Taekwondo/TKD%20History/02%20Ancient%20Beginnings.htm http://php.iupui.edu/~jrrussel/pankrationtext.htm

Traditionally karate was taught in relaxed environment. There were no formations, shouting or posturing until the Japanese began to practice karate. There was hard contact and lots of sweat as students didn't spar but actually fought for real. So if you consider karate a traditional art then I would choose traditional. I'll take Shotokan's bunkai and flanking and Tjimindie's lost track movement over Bruce Lee's shuffling any day. It's easier and more natural when you are going full throttle as opposed to just sparring. Karate, when trained in real time and having it's bunkai fully utilized, is as good of an art as any. The same goes for most Silat forms too. The only thing that may be lacking is the sophisticated ground work of BJJ and the weaponry of FMA. Other than that traditional ToTeJutsu as practiced in Okinawa considers all aspects of fighting and utilizes whatever works.

Has anyone heard of or seen the martial art of Hikuda? It is supposed to have it's earliest roots in pharaonic Egypt and has been kept alive by a mercenary company. Can you tell me about it?

This site has good information on what t look for in a school. http://24fightingchickens.com/shotokan/index.html

Characteristics of good schools are: A sense of comraderie among students Patience on the part of the instructor Full Contact sparring (continuous, not point style) At least some basic grappling and Ne-Waza (grounfighting) Sparring with weapons in the advanced stages Things to look out for: Posturing and shouting on the part of the instructor Egotistical students In-Fighting among students Emphasis on no-contact point competition No Kata interpretation beyond the obvious. Abuse of students. Some pain is necessary and accidents do happen but intentionally breaking an arm or knocking out teeth only instills fear and dislike. Over-emphasis on humility (An example would be some aikido classes where students prostrate themselves before the instructor as if he were a god). Humble and submissive is the last thing you wanna be if attacked. [ This Message was edited by: bustr on 2001-09-23 07:19 ]