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There is also a Sun style, and JAMA a few years ago did a whole spread on the "Fu" (I think?) family style which was very different. There are also many variant's of Yang Style.. Shuai Chiao people often do a "Ch'ang" modified version of Yang Style. It's done quite a bit faster, and the applications are (surprise, surprise) focused on throws.

congrats!! did the testing panel throw anything crazy (figuratively... if the testing panel starts really THROWING things, watch out!)? I remember we had to perform like a jump split kick with a roundhouse kick all in the same jump... crazy...

Pardon me... Sahbumnim TangSooGuy Just wanted to fill you guys in that our very own TangSooGuy was officially promoted to a Sah Dan Master of the World Tang Soo Do Association by Grandmaster Jae Chul Shin today at the WTSDA World Championships. I first met TangSooGuy a few years ago when he officiated over our school's summer gup testing, and have run into him many times since then. Our lineages intertwine very closely, and though we only barely know each other, I am extremely proud of his accomplishments leading to this event. He should get back from Orlando sometime after Monday, and while it is rarely wise to surprise a Master, let's give him a nice surprise when he gets back Congrats and Tang Soo!!!

Re: pyungahn/heian/pinan 3 I think the thing that turns them off the most is the double inside-out/low blocks at the beginning of the form. I've seen some goofy interpretations of that move... It is a very difficult form to visualize applications for, IMHO, especially for a 6th gup. But I keep telling them that this technique comes back to haunt them later in Naihanchi Sam Dan.

Luckykboxer... my favorite karate pants are part of a judo uniform made by Fuji. They are mid-weight, and just baggy enough for me (I too have big legs and have a heck of a time finding pants that fit well.) They are only about $20-25 at http://www.hatashita.com/ (i hope the censorware lets that url thru...)

Agreed. I was joking a little bit, but I really can't think of a better present, short of presenting something of sentimental value, like say a belt or gi or something similar.

I received mine after about 3.5 years as well. I was a little faster than some, slower than others. The fastest person I know got hers in about 1.5 years, but she was highly ranked in Isshin-ryu before joining our group.

This is funny, because I happened to ask all the students in class their least favorite hyung. More than half the people who knew Pyung Ahn Samdan (Heian 3) said it was their least favorite form. I wonder what they'd say if I told them that it was one of our instructor's favorite forms.

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I say cancel class one night, and spend the hour sparring with him

I was always taught that the kihap should come from the danjun (or diaphragm) and be quick and sharp to expel air quickly. A lot of kihaps seems to come the throat and are long and drawn out like: "bashoooooooooooooo!" or worse: "eeeeeeeyyyaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (cough, cough, asphixiate)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

There is a lot more to the Kihap than "sounding cool"

Fairly similar. The moves are all in the same order. Some forms may have a slightly different technique or intent, but they pretty much end up in the same place. More similar than the Shorin-ryu version of Bassai that I've seen (tomari?)

ah... missed ee rho completely then

Disciple, The SaeKye hyung are more or less similar to the Kicho pattern, except with 3 kicks coming up and back. I have an old TSD manual (by Chuck Norris) that lists two more kicho hyung. Never seen them practiced. TSDMGK_K40, Does your system not perform Chil Sung #2, or is that a typo?

Oh yeah, what Laurie said is also true.. MDKTKD schools often perform the Palgue hyung, whereas a MDKTSD school will do the PyungAhn/Heian series. Some schools do both, or a couple of both.

I think you will find them to be more or less the same. It will look a lot like Shotokan in some ways, but the manner of hip rotation, and a greater emphasis on kicking might put you off to some degree. The difference between the two is largely in the name. Schools with "Moo Duk Kwan" in the name are referring to their lineage to Hwang Kee (founder of Tang Soo Do/Soo Bahk Do) whose school was named Moo Duk Kwan (Insitute of Martial Virtue.) To understand why someone would be MDKTKD or MDKTSD requires drudging up the history from the early 60's when the Korean government was trying to assimilate all the styles of Korean Karate and combine them into Tae Kwon Do. While Hwang Kee resisted this effort (through a very long legal battle) many people within the MDK decided that they would go ahead and call themselves TKD. The instructor of a MDKTSD school (or the instructor's lineage) probably traces back to Hwang Kee, but they left his group at some point in time to remain on their own. When they left the federation will largely dicatate how some things are taught, especially in terms of hyung. I think there are also several TSD associations with the name Moo Duk Kwan in them as well. These are usually formed by senior members of the MDK who broke away to form their own groups. To say that TSD has a very fragmented history would be an understatement. How much of this will affect you, I dunno. I have seen some excellent traditional schools that produce strong black belts, and I've seen the exact opposite. I would definetely expect a greater emphasis on kicking in your hyungs, and especially in drill/sparring.

Not surprisingly, I do the same hyung as TangSooGuy... albeit, he knows more of them than I do I've seen a few people in our Association perform Bassai Sho, a few different Sai (kusanku no sai, chatanyara no sai) the occasional nunchaku form, as well as more than a few different bong hyung that are passed down via differing lineages... Of those, I've tried to learn 2-3, but they are hard to keep in my head without constant practice.

Practice your bo-jutsu a lot until you find a sword teacher

boy, we've never had this discussion before

despite what is an ugly webiste, I've only heard the highest of praise from 5 different instructors (differing styles, associations, etc) for Eosin Panther. http://www.eosinpanther.com/

2nd Dan from Columbus, OH with the World Tang Soo Do Association. I teach the occasional class at Ohio State, but am there - for the most part -- to learn.

Lua, I think.

Dijita, Amen to that. I've used it once in what would have been a very nasty fall of my bike, and once after tripping. It was like I was on autopilot.

If you like the pistol-type grip, check out Laci Szabo's UUK. http://www.szaboinc.com/