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It's my opinion and I could very well be wrong, but it seems that way to me. Skills will save you when you have no strength to fight.

I see what you're saying, but I think it's worth exploring.

Thanks for that site. It has some good stuff! I'm competing next week for the first time as a blue belt so I need all the help I can get.

Don't try this on a skilled grappler. You'll be swept and mounted. It's not good to do while in the guard. Not trying to be overyly negative, the Ezekiel is a good choke. Just not from inside the guard of someone who knows how to grapple well. That ones better for the mount.

They never last long, because the rely on strength too much. It seems like technique gets put on the back burner with these guys. A good example was Hughes and St. Pierre fight. St. Pierre is a better tactician and a superior martial artist.

Thanks I'll keep you updated. This is fun.

Yeah I know, but maybe there's something we are all missing. I'm going to see if I can come up with something. It would be great if someone comes up with something that can be used. This could change the sport.

Yeah, I guess from the closed guard the neck crank is one of the few which usually makes them open the guard. I just think it's worth more exploration. There may be only a few subs from there, but it would be interesting to try to find some. There's a few set ups for foot locks from the closed guard, but I like to explore this until I feel it's futile.

This will sound like a stupid question, but does anyone know if any submissions while in someones guard exist? Is it even possible? Something worth exploring? Your thoughts please.

Look you make alot of good points and I agree with what you are saying. It's really the training methods not the art itself. All I have to say is don't dismiss techniques that you think don't work. Some techniques have their specific place and work great with a MA'er that has trained them correctly. Putting down MA's you don't understand is just ignorance. Different MA's were created for specific purposes in a time when you had to fight that way. Look at the history of that MA and it will give you an understanding of why they fought that way. Weapons based MA'ers move differently for fear that maybe someone has a weapon. You can't shoot in on someone on the street..they could be hiding a knife or you just didn't notice it was there. The mindset of weapon based MA's are different, the goal is different. Capturing balance first is far more important than anything else in these types of MA's. Also you have to understand Sport MA's take lots of training and the techniques get harder and harder to pull off when the other person is studying the same thing. He knows what's coming. The idea of MA's that I've studied is to never let the other person know what's coming. We hide our intent, we hide our punches we hide our kicks we move to places that make you slower and confuse the opponent. I've used this against sport Artists with alot of success. There are higher levels of fighting out there. Even the Sport Arts can be modified over time to be even more efficient than they are now, but this would have to come from a seasoned pro that understands what the short cuts are after having done it for many years. Sometimes younger people want to use their strength and size to over come and opponent, but if the other person has more skill and preserves his energy the other will tire and loose. Some MA's are more difficult to learn because they involve more time and practice than others and some people that don't have the dedication and patience to bare with it will not learn it and dismiss it. I have enough fight experience to know that I can hold my own with most people. I spar, I roll, I practice throws with resisting opponents, I train with a cage fighter so I understand what you are saying. The problem is you are too quick to dismiss MA's that you don't understand. Take Kung Fu Sansoo and Budo Taijutsu for example. You can dismiss them if you want, but I've used one in real life and the other against resisting opponents for the last 6 years. I can make them work because they work. Just because other people can't make it work doesn't mean it doesn't work. I'll tell you who I think are actually Martial Artists that fight in the UFC. Silva, BJ Penn, St. Pierre, Crocop in his day. I believe these fighters can hold their own in more scenarios than just the ring certainly more than the ground and pounders out there. The other fighters fight carelessly and wildly with no fanesse or grace and they eventually loose. Courtoure is a specimen and a rarity. He's like the Lance Armstrong of cage fighting so I don't really put him in the same category. I hope this helps you understand my point a little better.

Here's the thing. I used to fight alot when I was younger and I only lost one fight and that's because it was stopped...I would have won. I've used TKD effectively, later I used Kung Fu Sansoo effectively, and now I study Budo Taijutsu and know I can use it effectively. I also study BJJ and I know I can use that effectively. I'm not a pro fighter and have no desire to be. I am competing next week in BJJ, but I don't consider that fighting. I have alot of respect for pro fighters, but to be honest there are very few that impress me with their skills. Nothing can replace experience, but an experienced fighter with real skills are a great combination. I see BJJ claiming that it is a deadly MA to attract students as well, but I've never seen it used in a life or death situation. I don't know if I would choose to learn a specialized MA to defend myself if I lived in a violent environment. Saying that, I think the more you know the better. I imagine that when the Gracies were challenging people around the world that they only showed us their wins. I'd be very interested in seeing who they lost or tied. If you can fight and have fought in real life, with no rules, where anything can happen. If you can do that and stay calm and defend yourself...that's all you can ask for. It doesn't make you a fighter, but you can fight well. I'm making the claim that Budo Taijutsu is deadly, BJJ is deadly, Kung Fu Sansoo is deadly, Muy Thai is deadly...etc. In the right hands they can all be deadly. That is what most MA's are saying. I agree. Now can everyone execute any of these MA's effectively in a real situation 100% of the time? Probably not. That's not the fault of the MA.

The side kicks controlled the distance. How'd you like that side kick right into a spinning back fist? Cung Le's skills are basically unmatched when it comes to striking in MMA. Who's tested Lidells ground skills? They can't get him on the ground or if they do he gets up. Cung Le broke Franks arm with a kick! I think that demonstrates that Cung Le knows what he's doing? Kung Fu fighter coming your way!

Any suggestions? I've been training hard and dieting. I've noticed results, but I'm not weighing myself until this weekend. I don't like weighing myself too often. My weigh in is on the 18th. I want to loose as much as I can, but I don't want to do it in an unhealthy way.

One or two days depending on when I go up.

Thank you!

I'm highly considering competing in the Copa Pacifica this month. That's if I can drop 10 lbs. I don't want to fight giants.

I love side control! Lots of fun stuff you do to someone. Also from the mount you can control the head to trap the arms. Let's see if we are on the same page.

Many MA's if trained the way the were meant to be trained are very effective and some very deadly. Lots of TMA's are trained softer than sport arts, because not everyone wants to be a fighter they just want to learn a MA in a semi-safe environment. They want to learn it as self-defense or as a hobby. Also lots of TMA schools are afraid of law suits and are in the business of making money. Go to China and train Kung Fu there and I guarantee you it will be alot different from getting trained in the US. They don't mind beating you up a bit so you get better.

I saw the fight. Go to https://www.mmascraps.com you can find it there.

The muscles in the neck are weak side to side and utilizing this weakness opens up lots of possibilities. The jaw is like a little steering wheel for the body. Does this make any sense to you? It's kind of hard to explain.

Cung Le killed him!

But there's more.

Cung Le fights Kung Fu and he beat the snot out of Frank Shamrock this weekend. Kung Fu if trained for fighting is great!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6zyj2RzHz0s Promo for Viking BJJ at LB4LB boxing.

Anyone have any links to fight clips, videos, anything? I have to see that fight! I missed and I could have gone to the fight, but I'm an idiot!