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Is Karo that good in pure Judo? I thought he did good on a national level but is he really a standuout? I do really follow judo that much so im not sure.

Remco was a Multi time European National champion and lenninger was like a 2x Us national champion if I rember correctly.

Sport Jiu jitsu positioning and point system is based around what workes best in a fight. Sport jiu jitsu does not focus on self defense but if you are good at it you will have the fundemntals to handle yourself just fine in a confrontation.

Judoguy I agree with you. Sadly alot of mma fans are pretty closed minded. I mean at one point everyone said that high kicks could never work in MMA aswell. Nowadays you see spinning back kicks and Headkick KO's quite commonly. I do belive other stlyes can work if they adapt their training meathods and techniques.

that said there still hasant been a more sucessful combo then BJJ and MT/Boxing so far. I have always loved judo and im glad to see more big name guys getting in it. There were quite a few judo guys in the early UFC's and other events such as Chris Lenninger, remco pardoel, brian johnston etc. Most of them didint do as well as guys like Karo and yoshida are doing these days. So it's good to kep an open mind.

I guess well get another taste when Natsula(sp?) takes on Nogiera.

Just about every striking stlye with the exception of boxing has more techniques than Muay thai. It's effectivenes comes from it's simplicity and constant focus on the most basic and effective moves.

it depends on your age, because bjj is not a little kids' hobby. It has very cruel locks and may not be good for small kids

You dont have to teach them all of the submissions or any. Just teaching them escapes, reversals, takedowns, and positional control and domination will be enough for most school yard altercations.

Techniqe is where most of your power will come from. Then there are body weight leg excersises like jump squats, lunges etc. My best advice would be just practice them alot on a heavy bag

you should learn quite a few throws, maybe not on the first day but proabably one or two. Ar far as going with capoeira ..why not they both camr from brazil

is sambo only grappling or does it also have punches and kicks?

depends on wether it is sport sambo or combat sambo. Just like there is a diffrence between sport jiu jitsu and bjj for self defense or vale tudo.

Since they dont have chokes I would assume there foucus would be more on joint locks. I realize sambo focuses alot on armlocks but I think saying it focuses more of leg locks that the typical bjj school is accurate.

Judo and BJJ are sport arts

There are bjj schools that focus on self defense and street fighting not competition or sport jiu jitsu. Although most schools are competition oriented that dosent mean BJJ as a whole is a sport. It was not created as one like Judo.

Still ... voted for Karate. In a good dojo you learn some ground stuff too .. if you can incorporate that you'll be fine

fair enough but look at the facts, There are great stlyes or karate out there and a few practicioners have had sucess in MMA(mostly Kyokushin guys) but numbers dont lie and karate practicioners havent had a % of the sucess of BJJ fighters or other grapplers..especially if your talking about people who train primarily in one stlye.

I wear under armor...

Hmm what kind of Kung fu? What kind of Karate? But for JJ, you specialise ...chosing BJJ.

It dosent matter, no stlye of karate or kung fu has had the same sucess as bjj in Mixed martial arts fighting. Thats just a fact.

BJJ also introduced the gaurd, side mount, mount and other ground positions.

um, no it didint..those positions all exsisted in Judo prior to the creation of BJJ...the Gracies didint just make them up.

check out the book "Kodokan Judo" by the founder of Judo.

A common takedown in wrestling.

I think getting attacked by someone who knows BJJ would be pretty rare.

although Sadly I know quite a few martial artist who get into street fighs quite regularly..BJJ guys included.

but there are thousands of people across the US who have done BJJ, Judo, or wrestled in school...so it's not as unlikely as some people think.

I do know alot of guys who wrestled in HS and will double leg people right of the bat if they get into a fight and pound them on the ground...and these are guys who have never even watched mma or train to fight.

can u get the same benefits from kick boxing and muay thai?

kickboxing is a broad term...international Kickboxing can be very similar to muay thai where as american kickboxing is more like full contact karate..basically it depends on the stlye/school/training meathods.

I do quite often. Positional dominance is generally emphasized in BJJ. So people like to pass gaurd and get on top to a controlling position..but leg locks are certainly an option especially if someone has a really good open gaurd.

I like leg locks, some people just dont like to give up position if they miss them.

another big difference will be their training meathods.

blue belt usually take atleast a year to get Black belt usually takes about 10 years obviously people have done it faster and some much slower but that is the average.

Competition isint necesary but it will speed up your promotions in most cases because of your expereince, training and preperation as well as showing your instructor where you stand in your division.

Boxing will teach you how to get out of the way of punches as well have to deliver them..since the average person will primarily throw punches in a street fight thats a good thing.

It will also teach you how to take a hard shot and keep going..something many Martial arts wont.

Treebranch

We train on soft mats and out knees hit the ground alot, this would be a big problem on the street.

I think this varies from school to school guys like Royce Gracie who do alot of self defense stuff emphasise doubles that dont bang your knee into the ground like a wrestling shot. We learn them that way at my school but I have seen alot of sport jiu jitsu school what learn takedowns that might hurt their knees on a hard surface.

The other thing is they don't teach striking at all and they don't teach how strikes can lead to lock and holds

Once again in sport Jiu jitsu no they dont teach strikes. If it's a SD of vale tudo focuses school you will learn strikes. Things such as kicks to close the distance, short range elbows and headbutts on the ground and how to defend against punches from your gaurd..etc.

You train at a machado school if I remember correctly? From my limited knowlade and what I have heard most Machado schools tend to focus on sport Jiu jitsu. Whitch isint a bad thing and the machados are some of the best in that area but that may explain some of the things in your training.

wrong make the assumption that every street fight involves more than one person.

If I was standing in the middle of a field across from a big tough golden gloves boxer and i kneww BJJ would it be a bad idea to take the fight to the ground? You realize that would be a street fight..what if If friend or family member was irrate and trying to take a swing at you in your living room..would it be a bad idea to grab them and hold them down until they calmed down? so once again you did make a generalization that was false.

secondly the gracie stategy is not to take the fight ot the ground 100 of the time clinch work, a few strikes and throws/takedowns are also part of jiu jitsu.

White

blue

purple

brown

black

then there is red for people who have been doing BJJ for longer than most of us have been alive.

Going to the ground in a street fight is a bad idea.

so is not learning how to fight on the ground, getting blindsided by a punch then flailing like a fish out of water while you are viciously held down and beaten...

It's unfair to make a sweeping generalization like that. Are there alot of times when it a bad idea to go to the ground? yes. Are there times when you have no choice? yes. Are there times when it's a good idea? yes.