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"I put somebody down with a reverse punch to the solar plexus and the sternum" was he like standing still and you surprised him? I just don't see anybody getting owned by a reverse punch.

Ok so has anybody here actually used their Reverse Punch in a real fight? And what do you guys do to train it? Just hit bags and stuff? I reverse donkey punched my Gf the other night, she got owned.

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Well Dan also said that Kali was the term used to describe the Arts practiced in the Southern Islands, and that's obviously wrong. The problem I was having with Dan and others who tried to explain Kali was that they were basing everything on what a word sounded like. Like Kali was an offshoot of Tjakalele, when the two arts are nothing alike.

Storm you're funny. I think you're missing the whole point of the discussion. Sri Visayan was a Hindu Empire, nobody in here is arguing whether India had a huge influence in the SE region. Of course it did. The focus is on Kali, the word, Kali the art. Firstly its not an Indian Art, Secondly Kali may have an Indian meaning but it has none in any Filipino Dialect. Why an Eskrima practioner would call his Art Kali is beyond me. Its like me practicing Greco/roman wrestling and calling my interpretation of it Karate. You're talking about Kali the word, while others are talking about Kali the Art. Kali the Art and Kali the Goddess have nothing in common. If you're gonna try to prove that Kali the MA came from India, just name an Indian Master who studied Kali, or an Indian martial Art that is similar to Kali. You're gonna have to do better than just say ohh this word sounds like this word so they must be related. Kali the Art is a very modern term, and people have trouble trying to explain where it came from. Hindu Goddess? Indonesian Volcano? Kalirongan? Tjakalele? Kalis? Its just a name a man choose to name his particular MA.

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Train your body to get used to adrenaline rushes. Scare the living shyt out of yourself, hypnotize yourself. Stick yourself in a dark room imagine the worst bed wetting monster/witch whatever and try to function like you normally would. When you're sparring, push the tempo. When in a fight, pretend you're playing. Also, religion. A religious fighter, will have an easier time controlling adrenaline rushes. They're just a bit calmer and less afraid of death. But you don't want to get rid of your adrenaline anyways, it numbs some of the pain from blows.

One rule of stickfighting is, if your sticks last longer than a couple of weeks, then you're not training hard enough.

Probably comes from the Sri Visayan Empire of Indonesia, Philippines and Southern Thailand. Kali is an Indian term, however kali the martial arts is a invention using the word Kali. But just because it sounds like its tied to India, doesn't mean it is.

I'm currently taking both Kuntao and Kali, and I've found that the weapons training in Kali makes my hands move faster and even the Siniwali is exactly like several Kuntao moves only without the sticks.

Look you wanna beat a groundfighter? This is how. Knock his ass out when he is standing up. Or know more groundwork than him.

I can tell you right now, that ya'll are too caught up in distance. This is a mistake, if you catch yourself measuring distance what exactly are you measuring? If you are in danger of being hit by a kick or a punch? Is there a distance where you don't consider yourself at risk?

Kuntao Silat- Very aggresive, your attitude is attack, attack, attack, there is no blocking, a bunch of styles claim they are both hard and soft but Kuntao Silat actually is. Incredibly fast and doesn't make your body do unatural or uncomfortable things. You follow your opponent to the ground, so if you have him down you punish him all the way to the ground and finish him there. Every attack puts your body at an imidiate escape route in case you miss or there's another bad guy coming. Kali- Weapons drill, flow drills, and the weapon motions are exactly the same as the hand motions, only now your hands are a blur and well conditioned after long hours handling weapons. Teaches you to take pain, aint no way you go through Kali drills without getting whacked by a stick, on the knuckles your head ect so you don't flinch as much after getting smacked. Ohh and, umm yah, they teach me to become a more well rounded, and respectful person blah blah blah yatah yatah, also good for health benefits ect.. ect.. blah blah..

I think the obvious answer as to why TMAs don't compete in NHB, is the same reason why Royce Gracie wouldn't fight Sakuraba unless certain rules and requirements were met. Also, grapplers/mma training is intense and they spend much much more time training and perfecting their skills than your common Martial Artists who shows up 2x a week to train. MMA/Grapplers, train harder, usually the've been in that type of competition since Middle School Greco/Roman Wrestling. Most of the tactics are simple and sound, and I can't stress this enough, very natural. The more natural you're movement is the more likely you will pull it off in a adrenaline rushed situation. But when its all said and done, I want to see more TMA people in America compete in these sports to refine the techniques of their respective Arts. That's the closest thing you will find here in testing your Arts.

I just saw a Demo of a Kenpo Master doing some strikes. I must say I am extremely impressed, I only see that kind of skill displayed by Kuntaoers. This guy, was a big fat overweight dude, but his hands FLEW, the strikes came in like a machine gun, just looks completely overwhelming. To be honest, it looked a lot like Kuntao, only a bit more linear but the same principles were applied. This was an American Kenpo guy from Utah, and he displayed just amazing skill. I wonder if this is common among Kenpo Practioners?

As far as proving themselves, many have, its not their fault you are ignorant of their accomplishments. You are looking at a very limited circle, if you think UFC, Pride, the Gracie Challenges is all that makes up the Martial Arts world then you're just blind. How could you know? Who's challenging who? Where I'm from, walking around claiming to be a Martial Artists will invite one thing, a fight. Because there are always hot heads who want to "try you out". Try you out meant, fight to the death, usually. Its just funny, that proving yourself now means, strapping on some speedos and wrestling with a bunch of guys. I agree with some of you MMAs though, the only way you're going to know if your art is still affective is to fight. But its a different world now, even in the bundocks where I came from that kind of fight is rare, but not unheard of. Hehe shoot man, before I learned any styles, I used to fist fight with other kids just to see who's better, but that was my culture. America is a little different.

Hmm I would have to say, Kali or any decent Eskrima styles, don't take something like "Arnis Karate" or something like that, you'll end up waiving a wooden knife around for "training". Teaches people to spot a Knife Fighter, to tell whether they are trained or not. I also think Jiu Jitsu is perfect for cops, not Brazilian Jiu Jitsu though, might put some bad habits into a cop.

Hehe MA, hindi ako tagalog, so hindi ako maronong mag salita ng tagalog I'm Cebuano actually. Joke lang ko pare, hindi ako sa Jakarta nan dito ako sa Florida, Tampa Bay, yay go Bucs! But yah, I've never even heard of kali until I got here, I'm a proud Pinoy from Mactan Island man, but you know all these guys are saying that Datu Lapu Lapu was this great Kali master blah blah, its funny.

Well Dan also claims that Kali is term used by Filipinos from Mindanao, when in truth you won't find it anywhere in Mindanao other than in Christian Filipino Enclaves. There was never any set system of fighting in the Philippines a person simply had their way of fighting, and they offered to teach how they fought to their student. Call it what you will, if it helps you attempt to categorize these arts, but in truth Arnis, Kali, Eskrima, whatever you want to call it is just too muddled to ever be really able to define them into set systems. In short, I can learn Eskrima call it Kali and open a shop at your local downtown dojo and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Some people might be tyring to standardize Kali now, and that's well and good but the original sources for what is now being called Kali came from Arnistadors, Eskrimadors who didn't know what the in the hell Westerners were talking about when they approached them to learn "Kali".

I'm talking more about how China Developed its Martial Arts and how Indonesia Developed their fighting arts. Although Chinese Influence is obvious in some Silat styles, I think the Indonesian Arts developed on their own well before Chinese Merchants traveled into Indonesia. I also think that rather, than the Chinese directly influincing things like horse stances in some Silat Styles, I think it was already there. I simply state that, because I've heard several Southern Kung Fu practioners claiming that Silat is an offspring of Wing Chun Kung Fu.

So what do you guys think? Silat is an offshoot of Chinese Arts or a "Sister" Art of Chinese Martial Arts? IMO, I think with the Indian influences in both China and Indonesia I think Arts like Pukulan Silat developed alongside Arts like Wing Chun.

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Its really difficult to explain, people always want to categorize and put things into neat little orders. I've heard it this way, Arnis was supposed to be a Northern Filipino Style, Eskrima the Central Islands Style, and Kali the Southern Islands style. I seriously doubt that Kali and Eskrima were the styles used by the various tribes to fight each other and would be conquerors, because then Kali instructions would include how to use Shields, and Spears. People have been trying to pass off Kali as the mother Art of the Philippines now, but I kinda just laugh at that.

Kali is practiced more by Christianized Filipinos, I've never even heard of Kali before I came here, only Eskrima and Arnis, which means its probably more of a Western thing. Silat is practiced by Muslim Filipinos in the Southern Islands, near Indonesia.

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