kcconnor, believe me, I know where you're coming from. First off, I think you may be a little confused: 1. If the Yaguchi sensei I think you're talking about is the Yaguchi sensei I know of, then yes, he was born in Japan, but he's been teaching in the US for several decades. 2. What the 6dan may have been talking about is the recent (2007) split between the ISKF and JKA. The way it used to be was that ISKF or the International Shotokan Karate Federation was under the Japan Karate Association (JKA), and worked as an overseas division taught by many of the JKA's first graduates of (and co-founders of) the instructor training program. Those ISKF regional directors, who came over in the 50-60's were: Okazaki, Yaguchi, Mikami, Takashina, and Koyama. In 2007 Okazaki and Yaguchi felt as though remaining under JKA while overseas was not in their dojo's best interest. However, Mikami, Takashina and Koyama all chose to remain under the JKA and thus split from the ISKF. To make a short story short... yes, politics are annoying. I bet the reason he reacted so strongly to questions was because these happenings are very recent and there is much speculation on the motivations of both sides, especially by individuals other than the 5 sensei themselves. That 6th degree probably just wanted to stay neutral on the matter. I can respect that. Personally, I believe all of the sensei to be great men. So I hope I've sufficiently conveyed this in a non-biased manner. 3. Well, everything you described was something that went on in the USA... so if you're going to look at it like that, Americans ruined karate, not the Japanese. Though I don't believe that to be correct either. Things just happen. In the words of Nakayama, let's just shut-up and train.