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The "young black belt" thing has always cracked me up, as has the jr. black belt. IMHO You either have what it takes, or you do not. Anything else is strictly marketing.

Hello, From my understanding the Hangul (and probably Hanja) are the same as those used in the Moo Yea Dobo Tongji...The titles of this thread reads "Way of Disciplined Art" but I am not sure where that rendering comes from...as I am not familiar with characters that pronounce MOO YEA DO that translate anything about discipline. It could be an *artistic* interpretation of the characters though...who knows....

Nope...Never heard of it...What I am getting is MOO (무) YEA (예) DO (도)...Which would literally translate as MARTIAL ART WAY. I wonder if this name comes from inspiration from the MOO YEA DOBO TONGJI (Illustrated Manual of Korean Martial Arts)....Who is your teacher?

There are many areas that work effectively on the neck that are great targets. Its is dangerous, though, to hit straight on, as it would be easy to collapse the windpipe, and death would be then imminent.

I was thinking the same thing. Sometimes that means it's great, that you learn precision, but other times it's challenging to your body mechanics. Do you find the same in Tang Soo Do, Josh? In sparring, I've never been corrected, and I'm sure it's because all action is in flux; we're constantly maneuvering. In performing self-defense techniques, it has come up, likely because action is more static/in place, and more easily observed to be critiqued. I prefer my less-strict way, especially for speed, but when my instructor performs that kick, don't blink--she'll have shot it out and already rechambered it. Hi Joe, Just saw this post... The answer is two fold...Yes, and No...I have met some TSD instructors, that still teach the exact same MDK methodologies they learned...On the other end of the spectrum, I have been under instructors teaching TSD not from the MDK lineage, that is much more relaxed...That tends to be the attitude I take in my own personal practice, and teaching. I know that technique is never the same for two different people. Yet there must be standardization, we just have more "reasonable" limits to that end IMHO. There is much to be said for the aesthetic beauty of highly structured technique...I very much enjoy watching talented SBD practicioners... I just took a different road...Not better, or worse, just different Personally I always tell my students that the art, as I teach it, is NOT a performance art...We're not always pretty, but we are effective take care, --josh

I seem to remember from Hakagure, that there is a passage that reads " the greatest honor of a warrior, is to die in the service of his lord". Today I think that this can be interpreted, that the greatest skill or path of a modern warrior, is total devotion to principles, beliefs, and physical safety.

To me it reads that there is more to the art, than physical technique; inclusive of mental/spiritual training. I think its also interesting to note, that Musashi, was not only a skilled Sword Master, but also a Master Calligrapher, and Poet...

Welcome to KF. Nice to have you here.

Or "Martial Arts Spirit"... I'm pretty disgusted with the general lack of Jung Shin shown by TKD players of today.

Shureido, or Eosin Panther.

I agree. Whilst I have always heard Uehara sensei was a PHENOMENAL practicioner (Texas Mike: See Tashi Logue's Book)....I was only able to find one reference to this "event", and it was not what I would "credible". It does, however, sound alot like some of the tales circulating about brother of Uehara Sensei's teacher (Choyu Motobu), Chokki Motobu.

Hello Josesteph, I understand what you are saying. In SBD they place GREAT importance on the exactness of techniques, and the methodology of their execution. Any questions can be promptly resolved by referring to GM Hwang Kee's Soo Bahk Do Tang Soo Do Volume 1. Now, on the other hand, while I do understand the above mentioned approach, I personally have never favored it. A fight IS NOT static, it is ever changing. Depending on your bodies position, before performing the kick, and where you want to place the chagi, there IS room for alterations to the chamber. The important thing is that if you want the kick to be a side kick, is the final placement, and extension of the kicking leg, and using the correct striking surface (in this case the heel). http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/chizikunbo/yupchagi.jpg Nice Avatar BTW, I have always enjoyed that picture of the Kwang Jang Nims Hwang. Traing Hard!!

When you choice of jeans is based entirely on kicking room

Maybe not directly, but for sure in the initial post opening this thread, there is an air of reverence, that indeed suggests more than a simple belt should carry. IMHO.

Hi tweak9, No offense intended, but I think that alot of the "old school" theory you mention, is more of an "innovation" that has taken place since the arts introduction to the west. I mean, the belt system itself did not come along until Dr. Kano decided to found Judo, and copy the belting system from synchronized swimming ;-D Dont get me wrong, I DO respect my belt. Just as I DO respect my uniform, and the clothes I wear everyday. I would not drag my obi on the ground, no more than I would my other articles of clothing...But if my belt touches the floor I'm not gonna have a fit lol (I guess its goes back to the whole "cloth" thing). Actually, the way I was taught (by my Korean TSD instructor) to fold my uniform, was on the ground, and lastly you lay your belt folded in half on the ground, and put your uniform on top of it, then tie the belt around the uniform. In April I was in FL for a seminar, and a Kuk Sool/Hapkido Grandmaster (with almost 60 years of training) taught a "rope seminar" in which we ALL used our belts to perform rope techniques, and yes, they touch the floor during that type of practice...

GREAT Response. My problem with the whole "belt" thing, is not the mere symbolizing (thats all well and good), but rather all the talk and hang up over a physical representation of something almost entirely intrinsic. From another side of the fence (keeping in line with respecting the belt and such), I know of a particular instructor, who would patch his belt when it would become frayed or white would begin to show through, out of respect. Question: In Aikido, Hakama pants are not worn until Dan level. When a knee gets a hole worn in it from constant use, do you continue to wear the hakama, and let them fray until you are left with "holy shorts" or do you patch/replace them? Edit: Another Great Post Shujika...

C'mon folks...Its a piece of cloth...Its a new innovation in martial arts...Since the 1900's The most important thing is that you train, and enjoy doing it. The belt cannot and does not hold your knowledge, and experience. Only YOU can do that.

I find that when it comes to general pugilistic ability, it VERY rarely comes down to the art being practiced, but rather the the individual practicing it. I have met some so called "masters" in arts that I would consider quite effective in general, that could not fight their way out of a wet paper bag. On the other hand, I have met, on many occasions, practicioners from systems that I personally do not see as generally being effective, that I would not want to be caught in a physical exchange with. fwiw,

Actually, it is fact. It was not until the late 1800's and early 1900's that Karateka started practicing more than one, or a few kata. Many Masters before then would only have 1 or 2 kata, that were passed down in their lineage. In fact, Motobu Udun Te had NO kata. I'm pretty sure that the collecting of many Kata did not come about until Matsumura, and Itosu's time.

Oddly enough, you're right! I dont know that I have seen a wrestling club...ever. We have boxing and MMA alot though lol I know that most Community Colleges, do have wrestling programs, but I am pretty sure its just for students at the school.

LOL I hear ya...when it comes to this stuff, I hate that I HAVE a credit card lol Also, I was going to mention in my last post, Wing Lam Enterprises is https://www.wle.com In addition there is https://www.weaponsconnection.com (Pretty Good Stuff, Except For The Ryukyu Gusan or JO). I would recommend ALL of the Shureido stuff...I have a pair of Nunchaku from Shureido that are 20+ years old, and still work GREAT.

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Really...Is This Thread For Real?

WoW..That is tuff...fun, but challenging.

Why Is TKD good for flashy demos? Well KMA in general have many so called flashy techniques inherently...High jumping, spinning, flying kicks (from Native Korean Taekyun)...Frankly its just part of the art, and coincidentally people want to see it, and thats what makes it flashy