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"Your son lost? He should train harder..." Kind of a bit harsh here. We should all probibly train harder, we are talking about defending ourselves at the end of the day. We don't know how he trained. Any competiton is always up for interpertation. Judges will grade based on their personal bias. You can't get away from it. It even happens in 10 point must systems emplyed in MMA. You win some, you lose some. I'm not really a form guy, so I can't really comment on using a lower ranking form for something like this.

I'd agree with that breakdown, DWx. The last is probibly the hardenst for a new person to do. I'm not sure I'd ever council anyone away from that path, but it certainly would be the hardest of those choices to pick up. Also the one requiring the most time and (in most cases) monitary commitment.

Honestly, I think that they are a pretty phenominal atheltic ability. They fall outside of my area of intrest, but they are neat to watch. I couldn't do them at 16, let alone now.

I agree with you bushido. The only disagreement with you is a minor hair splitting point about the term martial science. The term science in there denotes that given a specific set of variables the same outcome will occur each time. We all know that this dosen't happen during a fight. With each attack, even the same gross motor attack, with t he same defensive movement used to counter, the outcome can vary greatly. There are too many tiny variable that can change each time because of the lack of control exerted over the entire situation. Thus, each pratitioner will have to flow from movement to movment to gain this control, altering the outcome and path of the conflit. Often, this occurs many times during an encounter. It's each individual's unique training, mindset, and creative response to these variables that continue to make the martial arts "arts" rather than a science.

There are lots of things that I would agree with you on in regards to the above statement. The day to day minor knocks of training, some joint pain from locking work, things like that. It's a combative process after all. However, I don't get too stressed about stuff like seiza. In my mind, it's not a core part of the arts at this time. We, in the west, don't utilize that position for sitting and are therefore unlikley to ever actually need to do anything from there. It's also not part of our cultural perspective. However, if it's ettiquete at your school, getting used to it will almost be mandantory.

08-30-08 mitt work, strikes-10 min mitt work with defense-10 min arm bar series, both guard and mount 20 min 4, 3min rounds free roll 4, 3 min rounds roll with striking

At the outset of MMA you'd have been entirely correct. Most of us who competed in the early days did have some "base art" to work out of. Gradually, this is changning. Now days, with the popularity of the game, it's very common to see guys walk in and just start training MMA. They may not all compete, but they're training in it none the less. And the fighters you see turned out today are far superior more quickly than those of a decade back by and large. It's a training paradigm that I'd like to see more utilzed in sd arts, that's all. Not that commitment to a base style is bad, I just think that MMA kind of taught us how to turn out good fighters quickly. I like to think that we can apply the same type of methodology to sd goals as well.

Defianlty worth a look, Throwdown keep trying to find it.

Yeah, any exercise that is multi-joint in nature usually also works core stablilzers. Both of these types of workouts are very benifical to the MAist. We usually dwell in the spehere of total body performance while fighting. Exercises that work the total body have a much higher cross over value for what we do.

Yeah, those bob dummies are good for hitting in the throat. I usually flow into a grab if possible from this palm u p application. It works nicely for controling the mind of the opponant.

Yeah, that will happen. Keep the ice going post workout for sure. Prior to workouts, you could try some heat to increase the circulation to the area and move some of that stuff out of there. Always ice after activity though. Some anit-inflammatories will help. Shin bruises like th is are tought to get rid of. Lots of times, the brusing will occur under the tissue coveing the bone. Circulation is very poor here and hence it can take awhile to dissapate. Try padding the shin as a whole. You can also get some foam and cut a dougnut out to put around the injury. Tape it in place with some stretchy tape and then put a shin pad over the whole thing. This will protect the area quite a bit. Even consider using a hard soccer type shin guard over it for a while, just to prevent incidental contact. Just keep your own shin kicks to a minimum.

I can honestly say that I've never really used it as a primary weapon. I'm more likley to use a forearm from the infight than a ridgehand at range. there are just too many better weapons. I can see the occassional use to the throat, but I seem to always end up palm up with this type of application. As with anything, the primary thing to worry about is matching your weapon to the intended target whatever it maybe. I think that there are just some weapons that fit more targets with more frequency.

Personally, I love it. It's a staple snack food at my house. Of course, you have to leave off the butter and such. Air popping helps as well. Still, when I hit the theater, a big buckt is a must.

Yeah, any kind of work on sand is great. Makes you work extra hard. Today- 3 rounds of 50 squats 21 pullups 21 dips 10 hang cleans, 95 lbs. 3, 2 min rounds of shadowboxing- focus on cutting angles

Now I have used that to cut weight before . Yeah, don't miss that much.

I just caught your post DWx. I would caution against the idea of picking up a movement or two from different arts as a method of cross training. Although I too have pirated a thing or two from arts I haven't spent time with, it's not a good way to build a well rounded fighter. At the very least when doing this you shoudl have some familiarity with simialr tactics. When I talk about cross training, I mean it in a wholeistic approach to whatever new dimension you're studying. That means the eintire fight strategy as well as tactics. Only this way, once you have a feel for how it's supposed to come together, can you begin to integrate it into what you are doing as a whole.

Each style can be signifigantly different. Aside from the fact that some joint manipulation schools teach little in the way of offensive striking (akido for ex.), and some striking systems teach nothing in the way of ground fighting (most trad forms of karate), there are diffences in the way things are done in each. For instace, there are better ways to punch to generate power than others. There are ways to kick that empahise penetration more than others. The perennial blocking vs. parry argument could go here as well and several schools teach several variations of each. The key is to find out which ones work better under duress and train those. I do lots of takedowns, but they are mainly sweeps and reaping movments, my body contact throws are limited, which a stint in Judo wiould help me improve upon (seminar one of these days ) So there are different facets to each system and different things to focus on in each that are pretty specilized. Again, finding a school that teaches good weapons defese can be diffucult. So, I feel that there are real differences that one can learn from.

Probibly often. Just keep laughing.

I'd stay away from it, that's for sure. You can still cut down signifigantly by methods that let you keep a decent level of nutrition. One that dosen't risk all of your processing organs.

Yeah, I agree w those above, DBs will work fine for conditioning. As long as bodybuilding itself isn't your goal, which will require more variety and more weight to move, they work really well. Also consider some other things, such as kettlebell swings done with the dumbell, olympic lifts done with paired dumbells, and farmer's walks and such. These will also go a long way to helping with conditioning.

I agree, it's bunk. The more combat effective movments that you have programmed into your arsenal, the more likely you are to survive an encounter. Remember, we're talking about situations where you may have to stirke and move to survive, defeat or escape an attempt to take you down, or a weapon could be involved. That's the basics and thats alot of ground to cover. The trick is indeed time managment, and it's about picking the most effective movements and training them as much as possible and learing to integrate them with the skills you already have. You should probibily have a base amount of knowledge before you start trining in multiple arts, but by no means mastery should be required before adding other skills.

Thanks bushido man. It is really nice having a very independant exsistance. And it is nice to see fighters develop along their own lines of intrest. On the down side, it's hard to get anything done at an orgainzational level. Seminars are diffuclt to manage with no real central authority. Give and take on that front I guess. So, who else can chime in? I always find these types of threads interesting.

Thanks, Throwdown. It's a modern-origin, kempo-based system called Bujin Bugei Jutsu. It's heavily influnced by Ryu-kyu kempo and Goju as well. Lots things taken from boxing and kickboxing as well. We started studying grappling back around UFC 1 when everyone else did too. Initally, we hooked up with a shootfighthing organization, and later, got people involved in the Brazilian game so we could get greater depth of skill in it. The above list it pretty much the core of what we expect from black belts. Since we are heavily principle based in thinking, everyone is farily individualized as fighters. This shows in our teaching practices. As I said, some of our guys have taken great lenghts to learn pressure point tactics, I'm not really one of them, but they will also expect their black belts to be at least proficient. Some of our guys still do some forms and hence, expect their bb's to be able to as well. Every test is a little different. I fought amature so my guys all look more like MMAers than other schools. It's part of what I like about our group of bb's. Lots of variety with combative efficiency at the core of our programs.

Nice way to burn thru some of your reference material there bushido man. today- 30 shoudler presses, 95 lbs 40 pull ups (in sets of course) 50 dumbell swings, 35 lbs 60 set ups back and bis to finish.

If you miss with this kick (not have in checked) you are probibly out of range. I still woundn't put my back to the guy. I drop tragectory and deaccelerate as soon as possible. This usually lands me in a southpaw stance. Since you've got distance, immediatly switch back to your good lead since you have time. You should be able to do this even if he's pressing due to the space factor. A simple step of slide to cut an angle should work.