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today- 6, 2 min rounds on mitts. Started with combo, add slipping the jab work, to elbow, defend takedown with sprawl. 20 min instructinal, passing the mount. worked on this. 6, 3 min rounds of free roll. From the knees, 30 sec rest, no out bouts. 2, 3 min rounds of free roll from standing 1, 3 min mma round of sparring.

Where you end up after using a strike like this depends largely on two things. The first being how effective it was. The second being what kind of threat the individual posed. While striking to the throat is largely considered a deadly force tactic, it does not by any means always lead to death or great bodily harm. However, I would refrain from using it except in lethal threat situations. That being said, if you are faced with a lethal force aggressor, then the chances of you being in trouble for using such a tactic is very small. The key is actually being in one of those situations (which is by and large in our country a rare occuracne) and articulating the threat.

Not to my knowledge, which admittedly, is somewhat hazy. Exercise Phys was a long time ago. The big thing you can do to limit the effects of lactic acid build up is train specifically on short duration energy systems. Or high intensity training broken by rest periods (rounds so to speak). This kind of trining will enhance those systems and make the body function better during, and despite of, the build up. But there is no defeating it entirely. Good stretching and a cool down afterward will limit it's continued effects into the next training cycle, but that's about it.

I've always let guys wear whatever rank they've earned in another system when training with me. It's just a show of respect, it dosn't mean that they've accrued that rank with me, just that they have it. As such, I'd probibly have them wear that when competing. It goes a a long way to explaning why someone is in such and such division.

For our rank structure we use there levels of brown, 3rd-1st kyu. I don't actaully remember if we deliniated these by stripes on the belt or not as I went thru. With my guys, we're in gi's so infrequently it doesnt't matter much. For kids (like young kids) I use a stripe system entirely. From yellow all the way up to a black stripe. I just don't feel right awarding rank to someone under 10, even with a junior rank involved.

Welcome to the boards.

Welcome aboard! Nice site.

Ok, really back now. Got a second in today. Light (and I stress light) chest and tris. Shoulder is so far so good.

Overall, they probibly get people in the door. However, the type of student who joins due to the latest flick they saw might not be the kind of student you want. Still, you'll get a few taht come in to give it a try and stick it out. On the flip side, I think the garbage that they pu t in the uneducated public mind about what ma's can do is a bit silly.

I'm back! today- 4, 2 min rounds on the mitts. combos to elbows and knees, to forearm strikes 2, 3 min rounds of hard sparring with gear, focus on boxing 3, 3 min rounds of free roll 2, 2 min rounds of free roll with striking Not even too sore in the shoulder. Of course, that's after about a half of bottle of ibuprophen. We'll see how the day goes.

Again, get ice on it as soon as possible. Do this often and at least for the first 72 hours. Compression is normally a good idea as well, however, around the elbow I'd probily stay away from any serious wrapping just because you don't want to impenge on the unlar nerve as it runs thru it's tiny little groove. Take lots of anti-inflammatories. Give it a day or two and see if you are noticing imporvement. As long as there is no tingling or loss of senstaion this should be fine. If there is, it's the md right away. If you can give it a couple of days see if it's improving. If not, then get an ortho to check it out. If it is, slowly start back into activity. If this cauases undo pain, again, it's to the md. Good luck with healing up.

Congrats Michi! Excellent choice.

Yes, there are only so many ways to throw a punch or kick. There are better tactics and worse tactics to throw them depending on what their funciton is and if the function of the art is chaning that needs to be considered. For instance, if you are training for the purpose of defending yourself, yet you train with weapons that are no longer readily available or deployable, then you might need to change. IF that is your goal. I think the biggest change and/or innovation that occurs in the ma's has less to do with actual movements and more to do with methodology. We have signifigantly advanced in our understanding of both learning and physical training in the past decade, and we are lightyears ahead of the understanding of these fields that our ancestors had when most of these arts were developed. Those need to be taken into account, as do the social constraints (or lack there of) that have changed as well. For instance, kata was devised in a large part to train in secrecy. That is no longer needed in todays world. Therefore, you could utilize more immediate training protocols that would more quickly burn those responses into one's skill set. And train them agaisnt live atttackers using more modern protective gear sooner. Just a thought. This isn't to say that I'm touting doing away with kata. I'm simply using it as an example of how situations change that could lead to the very logical evolution of one's art. More than movements, it's those things that could evolve an art to a more effective system.

One item I took from an aikido seminar several years ago, and later training with someone who was cross training in aikido, was their concept of randori. I think that this is a great tool for developing awarness and defensive movement as well as timining and such.

I'd say it's approprite for him to compete in the division that he most likey has the skill to compete in. It would hardly be fair if he had enough time on to earn a black belt and he was fighting yellow belts. There would be concession given I would think for a drastically different art (as teh above example). All things being equal, it's much better for him to compete in a bracket that reflects his skill level.

I think we are close on this point Jim, but I do have to digress just a bit. I think the two, while there is much in common, are distincley different. That 's not to say that sd training can't learn from mma methods. Or that mma dosn't give one a good base for sd. Both are very much the case. But sd is not simply the beginning of mma training. There are certain factors that an sd motiveated ma-ist must be concerned with that mma fighters simply don't. Knives, guns, and clubs come to the forefront of my mind. The principles of controling conflicts that involve these weapons goes in a different direction than mma training alone, no matter how good of a base it might give you. So to does the time spent learning to actually imploy these weapons, which is something that I think is a must in todays sd enviornment. Another thing that seperates the two is the use in sd of tactics that are not allowed in mma events. Eye gouges, groing kick, stomping motions to the outside of the knees, strkes to the c-spine, small joint manip, ect. It's not that these things are superior to mma training, but they can serve in sd circles very effieciently and should be trained as a primary method of attack, not just an aside. Does that mean an mma-er can't do these things outside the ring? OF course not, I'm just stating that they are not trained primarily in mma. mma offers an excellent skill set that is very cross over friendly for those wanting to hone sd skills, but they are not one in the same.

That's be the one. Yeah, bushido man has a pretty extensive library he might have some insight.

The trapping motion in any direction does give you the advantage of temporarily occupying that arm giving you an open avanue from which to counter. Any direction will do in my mind. I usually combine any type of trap with body movemnt. You can choose to move the incoming attack, your self as the target, or both. I try to get both done, so if one fail you still have a built in safety net.

Probibly asking for a review of how thigs were determined isn't bad, as long as it's approached in a tactful manner. Anytime there are a large number of participants at these things with instructors from various school working on the board things can get a bit messy. Chances are alot of lessons were learned at all levels from this and subsequent events should continue to improve.

Congrats to your people and style.

I incorporate it as part of my trapping training. And it is highly effective. The key is to not reach from your guard position but to trap it as it travels into your sphere of influence. Like you said, aabout three quaters of the way there.

The red suit is great for impact protection. Unfortunatly, it gives up alot of mobility in the process. This makes realistic attacks somewhat less so, however, it's still a great tool. Blauer systems have now come out with their own version of the suit. I'd like to get my hands on it to check out, it looks like the best of both worlds.

Run, again. 2 miles hard.

There you go, now I've got a vote in. I think a lot of factors go into determining the more modern applications of training to defend ones self. The most obvious is the addition of training against and with the most common weapons of the day, firearms, knives and clubs. Another is the use of modern protective gear to test sd movments against "live" attackers at a more realistc fight speed against resistance. Also related is the use of modern conditioning and learning pattern understang for retention. At the end, it's successful outcomes that we're looking for.

Not being out of a traditional school, I don't even feel like I should vote in the poll. However, to the point of the thread, I think teachers should teach what they are qualified to teach. I think chaning with the times is a good thing, if that's what the instructor WANTS to do. He certainly shouldn't just because students might want to do something else. My biggest gripe comes from people who haven't focused on sd applications claiming that they teach sd. Or schools who have no grappling exp suddenly teaching "grappling applications" of their art. Be proud of what you teach and the reasons you teach it. Instructors shouldn't feel the need to try and ad hoc on some thing that is popular at any given time. Now, I've seen plenty of good programs that deviated from a tradition set of specification to successfully integrate either sd or mma principles and application into their school. I guess when you break it down, the school I came out of probibly went thru this prior to my involvment. The process usually involved some heavy cross training by the instructor and/or core group of students. Then add some heavy testing of patterns at speed. It can be done. However, it shouldn't have to be. I think up front honesty on the part of the instructors and students (about what they really want) is key in the process. I've had guys want to train with me that were interested in the long tradion of ma's and the history, ect. I usually refer them elsewhere. That's not my cup of tea and it would be foolish for me to try and fill that void for them. Likewise, a school that focues soley on non- contact work and tournament preperation (katas and sparring) probibly shouldn't be touting sd as their PRIMARY focus. It's just my thoughts on the matter.