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today- 8 hours of re-certification training for our dpt's. DT program. Mostly classroom today, but I did get some reps on the takedowns utilized therein. I'm not a huge fan of the program overall, but is has some high points. 4 mile run legs 3, 2 min rounds of solo mat work. Repped shots, sprawls, throws.

I did. And loved it. And I'm a big fan from way back, especially of the original series. Sure, it was different, but skirting around all the established Trek history will allow them to do something fresh and, if the first movie is any indication, appropriately reverent. They also pulled it off in a way that I think most Trek fans will buy into. They've been throwing around the term "alternate realities" for about 30 years now. I'd love to see a Khan in the sequel. He's definitely the best baddie they've put to screen.

today- 2 mile run bis/tris/forarms

That adjustment is often what you're looking for when striking from the ground. If you properly utilize strikes from the up position or from a less degree the down, it can make him move to an advantageous position for you to apply a fight ending tactic.

Sorry, my Japanese is weak, I'm not sure what that is. The answer is sometimes, but not often. If there's a need, but not before. Any double blocking out of the system I study is actually more of a trapping series. I think it's more useful as a block, block against two attacks that are launched in close proximity. Two weapons to one is usually a losing proposition. The exception, for me, is when a weapon is involved and it's threat outweighs all other threats. In that case, it's usually more of a parry, grab series that comes out with the effort to lock down two hands on the weapon hand for control.

today- 8, 2 min rounds of escaping from positions. Reset to position if escaped. Top guy works maintaining position. 4, 2 min rounds of free roll from the knees 4, 3 min rounds of free roll from standing 3, 5 min rounds of free roll. Arm drags to singles really are starting to come through. rest 2.5 mile run rest back/abs

All of the above could certainly be true. It could also be that the guy who has decided to attack you is a good wrestler, or just a big, strong bull and had managed to hit a takedown on you because he was bigger, stronger, or faster, and maybe even better. I agree, you shouldn't assume that someone will jump on you. Nor should you assume that they won't. Train to deal with both. Getting back to original post, I think we've all been so busy interjecting our thoughts that we've forgotten to say good job for branching out. Glad you enjoyed the experience and keep us posted on your progress.

I really don't see them as legit as the way they are usually described. It's just my opinion. If they do work, and I've seen some convincing anecdotal evidence from some select lines, I think it's do to physiological issues with neural disruption that centers around the precision of the strikes. Not some sort of mystical force. Now, some things I've seen are painful and I've seen guys get knocked pretty silly, but the trade off in training time needed for such precision at speed is usually a deal breaker in my mind. I can train a hook punch to efficiency much quicker than a series of pressure point attacks. And it's end result is the same. Not to mention that you have to look at the possibility of nerve strikes not affecting a certain percentage of the population. Even nerve strike guys will admit that. Whereas a hook punch (or any other, I'm using an example here) will work about the same on anyone. Still, as I age I might give it a longer look. I don't know that I'll be able to train the way I do now at 50. We'll see. It might bear looking into then as a way to keep training.

The key phrase you use is "imagining they'll work the same". They just won't, I agree. By understanding this, you can still utilize them successfully, just not in the same way. For instance, you can often make someone move a given direction you need them to, like into a submission, by striking them. They aren't going because of the overwhelming power of the strikes, but because of the damage or discomfort you're inflicting. It's almost subconscious at times to move away from an irritant. There are ways to generate more power, but you should always look at what you're accomplishing, or maybe better, what you're trying to accomplish with striking from the ground. You should look at it as a tool best utilized for making your "ground" tools work more efficiently.

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No. Hadn't heard of it. Sounds more like a post test hazing ritual than part of a test. I'm not bagging on that either mind you . A bit of hazing in good nature isn't bad. But as an actual part of a test, not so much.

today- warm up shrimping 3, 2 min light rounds of setting up takedowns 2, 2 min rounds of either defending only, or offensive only on takedowns 30 min breakdown on countering off takedowns and defending from there. It's been a point I 've been getting caught at from time to time. 10 min of misc. sticking points from guard I wanted to work out of my game. 3, 2 min rounds of free roll to finish lots of technical training today.

That's why I view them as a highly suspect tool. Handy, maybe, but not a reliable instrument. Physiology is just too different person to person and the stakes might be too high allow for any "maybe" movement. I do think they are worth knowing at a rudimentary level. Just not the best tactical option to choose from in most cases.

Agreed. Focus on more "traditional" ground weapons. You'll find that they will be more effective against a wider range of situations. It's nice to have other stuff in the arsenal, espically when not constrained by competitive rules, but stick to the "bread and butter" stuff so to speak till you're well versed in the basics. I'd also offer that to really excel, focus on your position training and posture more tahn anything early. Everything functions off of the abilility to control position. Drill it constantly. You'll find it'll lead to a much greater skill increase.

today- 10k run

today- 2.5 mile run delts/traps cool down with knife patterns

I see what you're saying, Michi. Thanks for not billing us

It sounds more like a marketing issue than anything else. You could, as you have, use the MMA moniker to draw in more people. Still, you're going to have issues on your hands if you're teaching a form of karate under a different name, due to the fact that people will eventually get the "bait and switch". I'm not suggestion that this is the case with you school IronFist. I'm just saying it's easy to get caught up in marketing and get your message lost. You have to look at your instructor staff and realistically evaluate their ability to teach a MMA class or kickboxing class. You also have to realize that people showing up for those will be less likly to fill the rolls of your karate, or kempo, class than people who would come in to study one of the disciplines. I think that using Kempo on your signage is easier than kb or mma. Most people won't know the difference. Still, I'm assuming that you guys are actually a kempo based art at some point so you're not stepping on anyones toes. Personally, I think the others are right. It's a training issue, not an art issue. It's also based on what you're wanting to do with your art. This will define it's training prinicples and methods. If your goal is sd, the training tactics employed will look much differnt than if it's point fighting, and they will look differnt than if your training for some form of kb. So will the finished product. That dosn't mean that you can't our shouldn't let proven methods of training for kb or mma seep into sd training. In fact, I'd highly recommend it. It just means that the training will be set up slightly differently for each. Above all, the background mindset prep should be radically altered between each. More than anthing, this and use of force levels will seperate the respective outgrowths of any school. Personally, and this is only to me that this applies others mileage might vary, I don't care what students want to learn or not. I teach what I teach, if they train with me, great if not, oh well. It's nice to have a varied background, this lets you focus on different aspects of ma's. It's one of the beauties of cross training. But I'd like to think that my attitude would be similar could I not move from focus to focus. Then again, I train in a small, non commercial setting so I don't have to worry about keeping doors open and lights on. I have to imagine that it would be harder to keep this posture if I had to concern myself with those things.

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today- 2 mile run chest/abs cool down with knife work

Wee, you learn something everyday. I'll have to check into that before my next trip. Thanks.

It is a blood thinner for sure. It's part of my cocktail I use for climbing above 10,000 ft. just for that purpose, but that's another story. Still, it's application for joint and muscule pain is very worthwhile. If I have bleeding that I'm having that much trouble controlling, I'm going to the doctor.

I'd ask them too. But part of the usefulness of a board like this is to bounce things around and think of them outside the boxes we all have. It's good to get some outside thoughts on different thingsa as well.

Ice, later heat. Lots of ibuprophen. I mean lots. I have some topical acetomenaphin from otc in europe that I'm experimenting with as well. Did I mention ibuprophen?

Getting different perspectives and a smatter of hearing about other arts is one of the great things about being part of the site. Good find everyone, thanks for posting them.