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No, because both of their experiences together adds up to mean something. Both are of great value to the entire student body.

Lakers lost again...ouch! Series tied....2-2. Now we go back to The Staples Center for game 5. GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!

Yes....I do see that now. Never mind Martialart what I said. I apologise! Time to remove my foot from my mouth!

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Yeah. I've never seen nor have I ever heard of this before. I too, would guess that the tape would add support to the wrist. How much? I don't know that either. I personally have never used any type of tape on myself before doing any tameshiwari. I take that back. I now remember having seen that before when I was watching an ISKA breaking competition. Still, I don't know why they'd wear the tape. Possibly for looks.

Bingo! Not all black belts can teach.

Thanks for those answers...and I concur with you Patrick from what I know about KF. It's [KF] the most solid of any and all martial art forums found anywhere in the internet.

That might makes right. Something all bullies already know. Bullying a bully makes the bully worse--maybe not to you, but later on to someone else. When did I ever say that? I know when...never. I don't approve of anyone bullying anybody at anytime for any reason(s) because two wrongs don't make it right. Especially in class!

I appreciate that Brian. I just feel ashamed at times, and maybe it's that I'm furious at those type of high Dan's because of their inappropriate actions. It's the old saying...One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch. Again, thanks Brian! But that said, you are quite keen for people to know that you are a senior grade. [edit] within your group - just saying ) Chitsu In this topic, we were recently talking about how some high Dan's act towards their lower ranks by trying to keep lower ranks under their thumb, so to speak. I don't mention myself at any time, in any way to show-off [i'm nobody special] or to show my superiority [i'm superior to nobody, especially in "my group"] or for any other negative reason. That's just not me; past, present, and/or in the future!

Imho, this is an inappropriate way for any black belt and/or any instructor to act/react to that type of situation, especially during class. What did that really teach the entire class? One who isn't the instructor has no business taking corrective actions on their own. Matter of fact, the instructor has no business taking corrective actions, and that's what that was imho, in class because instructors have, or should have, other professional methods of disciplining their students. To cause a student, especially a minor student, to cry isn't how we're suppose to help our fellow martial artists. To bully a bully in class would've led me to tell that black belt to go home for that day because this isn't how these type of situations should be dealt with in class; not by any black belt or any rank, and not by the instructor. How would I have handled that situation? It's simple. I would've quitely instructed that bullying student as well as the parent into my office immediately, and then I would've suspended that student for a week minimum for bullying and I would've explained to that student and parent why bullying isn't allowed in my dojo. In that, I would've also explained why bullying isn't an appropriate action for anybody to display, especially for a martial artist. Bullying and the martial arts are a oxymoron, and therefore, they should be treat as such.

Are there explanations that you'd accept? At this moment? At their ages? No! They've other ways to address their situations other than starting the fight.

That's a good point. I've talked with a few who normally attend Kanazawa Sensei's Seminars, and they say that Kanazawa Sensei conducts OPEN Seminars for all styles of the martial arts. This is an interesting point because if one isn't familar with the Kata's, for example, that Kanazawa Sensei will practice/drill on, how's one going to benefit from it? Kanazawa Sensei know Kata's that I don't know, therefore, I'd probably just sit out that session. But, how am I benefiting by not trying? Good point Brian!

Brian, Do you get a workout while Boxing on your Wii? My sister said that she gets a workout while playing Tennis on her Wii. Maybe this isn't such a far fetched idea after all. It bears some trying it.

I appreciate that Brian. I just feel ashamed at times, and maybe it's that I'm furious at those type of high Dan's because of their inappropriate actions. It's the old saying...One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch. Again, thanks Brian!

Well, Lakers made fast work of the Jazz. We're 2-1 over the Suns. I believe that we'll beat the Suns 4-1 games. Then we'll meet the Celtics in the Finals. That will be a barnburner. Celtics beat the Lakers last time they meet in the Finals. I sure hope that history doesn't repeat itself. PS> I'm craving some Jack In The Box......yummy. GO LAKERS!!!!!

This is one of those points that I have come not to believe in when it comes to MA experience through training. I think that most 2nd dans have a pretty good understanding of what their style is about. It comes to a point where dan ranks become a crutch that higher ranks use to keep them around, because they "don't understand" yet. Yeah! Some high Dan's surely make the rest of us high Dan's look bad, and in that, we're sometimes lumped in with those type of high Dan's. Sometimes I'm ashamed!

I'd say, blocking above shoulder height is ok. It's not textbook, nor is it pretty. Who cares? Just block the darn thing that's coming at you. If the only thing that your doing is blocking above your shoulder height, yet everything else is correct, then block. How else you going to block something from someone who's taller than you. It's either block the darn thing or duck! Just for grins and giggles. In Shindokan, we don't back up to block. We stand our ground or we go forward or we angle forward/to the side. I'm not saying that blocking while stepping and/or moving backwards is ineffective, it's not. It's just not our way. Either way, above shoulder height isn't the end of the world, it's another way.

I wear one that fits! I wear one that's comfortable! Sorry...I just couldn't resist!

Thank you Brain! And YES....YES....YES...that's what I'm talking about!

BTW, I'm not asking about what music do you train/exercise to, to me, that's a totally different thing because I train to GNR. But what I'm asking is what song would best describe you as a martial artist?

I was bullied a lot in the 1st grade. My lunch money was stolen from me every single day. This bullying eventually lead me to start taking karate. The bullying never stopped until I stood up to the bullies and I defended myself effectively...that took awhile because my MA skills were nothing, but I improved and that's when the bullying stopped. I've told my kids that they should never start a fight. If they're being bullied, then they should tell the school about it and let the school deal with it. Yet, if they're bullied and there's no way to avoid the bully(s) and/or get away from them. Then by all means, defend themselves to the best of their abilities. If in the course of them protecting themselves from the bully, and the bully gets a bloody nose, and my child gets in trouble with the school, then I'll talk with the school. I'm not going to punish my kids for protecting themselves. My kids also know that in the course of defending themselves, and there's an opportunity to run away from the bully(s), then do just that, run! If my child starts the fight. Then they've some explaining to do to me as to why.

Check pulse.. it's good so off to Karate Practice. After Practice check pulse again.... safe to go home. That was a good read. I like Tomcat's addition. There are 2 kinds of pain. One you can work through and the other is your body saying stop or it's going to get worse and you'll reget it later. Great post Jeffrey! You said it so well in so few words, than when I said it so badly in so many, many words!

Does anyone here ever have a thought that comes out right in our brain, but then it comes out wrong on the post? Well, I know that I do from time to time...like my OP of this topic. The meaning was there, but the words came out inappropriate. You were all correct in chastizing me because my inspirational words if listened to might've caused undue pain to someone. Sorry! I'm only speaking about regular/common aches and pains from training, that's all. If the pain continues to be a bothersome, than by all means, seek out a doctor asap!. In that, the pains not worth the suffering and/or the permenant injury. Pushing yourself to do that extra set or that extra drill might be fine, but only to a point. It's not fine to push oneself to such a point that you place yourself in an unsafe risk. I once tried to use a gymnastics Vault. I had no business on that darn thing, but I still tried to run up to it and do a somersault. Well, it went fine until I landed. I severely sprained my right ankle. So bad that I was on crutches for about a month. But, just as soon as I could stand and put a little pressure on my right foot, I did something stupid. I did one roundhouse after another. First slow and soft and then I increased the speed and the power. Yeah, it hurt alot. I didn't care! I worked through the pain. Eventually, the pain was gone. The morale of that story was that I was STUPID! I could've seriously and permanently injured myself. Working through the pain is one thing, but being STUPID is another thing. What I should've done was what the doctor told me to do...rest it and for me not to do anything with it until I was cleared by my doctor, but I didn't. Yeah, I'm fine and I'm lucky...I was very STUPID! Bottom line. Listen to what your body is telling you and go to the doctor. Don't wait until you're so injured from working through your pain; that you suffer for the rest of your life. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY WHENEVER YOU HAVE ANY discomfort or distress or soreness or tenderness or agony or anguish or misery or suffering or torment or inflammation or swelling or damage or harm or hurt or injury or backache or bellyache or charley horse. Your body's signaling you and telling you to pay attention and tend to it before it's to late. Rest might be all you need, an ice-pack might be all you need, a hot bath might be all you need, a ace bandage might be all you need, an aspirin might be all you need, OR you might need to go see a doctor. Stubborn shouldn't be replaced with stupid!

After re-reading my OP, I went...DOH! I shoud've mentioned that I'm not referring to minor/serious pain received from training in the martial arts. No! Any and all injuries accompanied by pain needs to be cared for by medical professions. What I'm referring to are the comman aches and pains from a night of hard/tough training at the dojo that requires absolutely no medical intervention at all. Just an ice pack and some bed rest. The kind of aches and pains that greets you in the morniing when you try to get out of bed, and you don't want to get out of bed. That would be so careless and irresponsible for me to suggest anything other than that, but, that's how my OP might've sounded like. Sorry!

I'm still laughing to hard to answer this. :::wipes the tears away::: Depends! We're all so different, not only in body mass and the like, but, in ones pain threshold. Still, I believe that the fat belly with a 6-pack will feel the pain providing that a martial artist has the ability to hit extremely hard and able to penetrate, and penetration is the key, and good luck. We're taught to not punch the mass [pun intended], but to punch 2-3 inches behind the mass, whatever the mass might be. After all of that, if nothing happens to this enjoyer of a 6-pack, well, hit something else, like, a knee/joint, and/or the face/head area. Whatever you hit...do it quickly and without any reservation. If still nothing happens...run and run fast.