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Self-defense was my primary reason for starting to learn the martial arts when I was a child. But, over the years, self-defense wasn't the primary reason for continuing in the martial arts. Nonetheless, self-defense is part of the martial arts, and whether while some of the SD techniques taught are a bit far fetched, imho, a lot of the SD techniques are solid across the board. As an instructor of the martial arts, I've also moved away from some of those SD techniques taught to me by our Soke and our Dai-Soke because I didn't believe that all of those SD techniques were effective FOR EVERYONE, for one reason or another. I still teach an abridged SD curriculum because I still see the viability as well as the purpose/reason of presenting SD to our students, and in that, if when the moment presents itself, and ONE of my students can only remember ONE SD technique that saved them from an attacker; then teaching SD has been all worth it, no matter the opinions of others as well as myself.

To each and everyone of you that have tried to help me with my very mean and deliberate computer...I say this out loudly.... THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!! I always thought that the computer backed up whatever ALL BY ITSELF, dumb of me in the first place considering I'm dumber than a stick when it comes to computers...DOH!! Btw, I'm taking my computer to my computer girl ASAP...like right now!!

That's a great idea; I thank you for that. I've WAY to many important documents and the like on my computer. Good thing, all of my martial art platitudes are in a safe deposit box...whew!!

Oh, those are good links too...Patrick, thanks for adding those for Jay. This is what I'd call...teamwork!!

Well....I feel intimidated....help me!!

Welcome to KF!!!!!!!!

A very solid post!! I find myself defending my Soke for a decision that he, and he alone made when he awarded the Menkyo Kaiden to our Dai-Soke; and I feel like I shouldn't have to...but I do for some reason or another anyway.

Well, it's four anyway - within the same ryu-ha. Point is, the Menkyo system is NOT traditionally Okinawan - as much as people want it to be - it isn't. Sojobo Yeah, you got me there, I only listed 4 from the same ryuha, but I can list many more. I surrender to the fact that the Menkyo system is NOT traditionally Okinawan. Japanese don't own the Menkyo system - as much as people want it to be - they don't. Okinawans use the Menkyo system - as much as people don't want them to - but they still use it.

I've both editions, and I paid about $120 for the 2nd edition, and I agree, the money was well worth it. I also agree; Harry Cook is VERY knowledgeable about Shotokan, and any serious Shotokan karateka would have this book in their home library, imho. Check this link about Mr. Cook... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Cook And here's an interview with Mr. Cook... http://www.theshotokanway.com/harrycookinterview.html

Unsu is the only traditional Shotokan Kata that has Roundhouse kicks in it. I found that some what interesting considering that the Roundhouse kick is one of the more used kicks during Kumite. The world of Bunkai has so many INTERPRETATIONS of any said kata, and Unsu is no exception. That jump and spin towards the end has some solid interpretations from all four corners of the karate world, but, it also has some far fetched interpretations as well, imho.

Congrats and very well deserved!!

Did you know that during Mas Oyama's 300 man Kumite, Oyama wanted to go a fourth day, which would have made it a 400 man Kumite, but no one else was willing or able? Did you also know that Oyama's 300 man Kumite took place not long after he had completed his mountain training?

Other Okinawan Karate awarded the Menkyo Kaiden... Bushi Matsumura passed on his Menkyo Kaiden to his grandson, Nabe Matsumura. Then... Nabe Matsumura passed on his Menkyo Kaiden to his nephew...Soken Hohan. Then... As I've already mentioned within this thread....Hohan Soken gave his Menkyo Kaiden to Fusei Kise prior to his death in 1982. Then... Isao Kise, son of Fusei Kise, just might end up with his own Menkyo Kaiden from his dad, when and if that time ever presents itself. That's an impressive line of OKINAWAN Karateka's that have awarded as well as received the Menkyo Kaiden. A certificate that's...well...Japanese. I could, I suppose, award my most senior student the Menkyo Kaiden, but I'm not in the Sokeship lineage, and in that, I have NO RIGHT.

My first thoughts are respect, not marketing. Nothing, when its used in its proper context, but I'm referring only about the Menkyo Kaiden. I believe that the Okinawan equivalent IS Menkyo Kaiden, nothing more...nothing less...nothing wrong with that, imho.

I don't believe Mr. Trias ever received a Menkyo Kaiden.

Some people's eyes tell you that they've seen things. His eyes tell you that people have seen him. Solid post!!

Just for grins and giggles...Roberta Trias is Hanshi and Menkyo Kaiden...her discipline is...Okinawan Shuri-ryu. Because her Menkyo Kaiden was issued within an Okinawan organization; does it mean nothing? And/or....should it be stripped from her? And/or...should she be shunned because of was awarded the Menkyo Kaiden? Other noteworthy Okinawan's have issued the Menkyo Kaiden. For example...Hohan Soken gave his Menkyo Kaiden to Fusei Kise prior to his death in 1982. Sounds to me that NOBODY "owns" the exclusive rights to this title, and in that, both Japanese AND Okinawan organizations can issue one if they want to. Does anybody know the Okinawan equivalent of the Menkyo Kaiden?

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Respect begets respect!!

My computer dumbness is about to ask...how do I back up and into what, etc?

More importantly is that your doctor knows the human body, in that, I'd strongly suggest that you refer to your doctor and not what's on the internet. Stay strong in your faith!!

For the posts thus far, I thank you!! To Adamo: No, I didn't back it up. Why? I'm stupid, it's just that plain and simple. I was trusting that the software was doing that on its own already. To Elizabeth: I tried what you suggested but I didn't and I still don't know how to do that and/or as simple as your suggestion was, it was above my abilities. You know, with me and computers, I'm like a calf that's staring at a very strange gate. To mindsedgeblade: My computer won't let me run Norton until I get an external hard drive for more space. Norton wants to download some updates, but, on that computer, the space available on the hard drive is limited, and I've deleted as much from that hard drive as I can without causing new problems with its operations. I'm getting real close to taking this computer to my computer girl, who's a genius in that stuff. I deserve to pay out the nose for her to save my bacon. Sheech....way to go Bob....duh!!

Are you saying that no Okinawan arts practice/use/etc Menkyo Kaiden? Historically - it does not exist. If modern groups have made it up, then that’s their business - but it is not how Okinawan arts were taught. That’s not to say they are any better or worse, but traditionally Okinawan dojo did not follow the Menkyo pattern. Sojobo I know for a fact that there are many Okinawan karate styles that have awarded the Menkyo Kaiden. It might be Japanese, but, the Japanese don't own the exclusive right, or they shouldn't. It's possible that my Soke saw the value of the Menkyo Kaiden within the Japanese systems, and adopted it into our By-Laws...I don't know because I wasn't there when our By-Laws were created, nor was I there when our Soke decided to actually award it to our Dai-Soke; it was his right. In the scope of this topic, I'd say both Japanese AND Okinawan Karate has the right to award the Menkyo Kaiden. It's not really for me to say either way because I might feel one way or another, but, I'll never have the right to award the MK because I'm not in the Sokeship lineage, nor do I want to be.

Are you saying that no Okinawan arts practice/use/etc Menkyo Kaiden?