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Now...That's funny...and scary...all at the same time...and accurate!!

Minimums?!?! Godan, but nothing lower than Sandan!! One that's NOT a beginner of said MA!! Knowledge is everything, and a beginner lacks a lot of that knowledge; while a Sandan, and for surely a Godan, meets the minimums in spades!! But who sets these standards? Are they set in stone, or are they just the standards you grew up with, are familiar to you, and therefore, are the ones you stand by? To me, in many more "traditional" styles, this adherence to "this" way or "that" way is what shuts many people off to occurrences like this young man and his school. We are only open-minded to so many things. Here's part of what bushido man is getting at with his points (which are spot on) about blues and purples in BJJ. If Godan were the minimum for opening a school, you'd have like 10 in the country. Let's do the math. Figure 8 years for a bb. That's just a rough figure. Certainly lots of people have taken longer (two decades ago 10 was a minimum.) Now, for 1-3 stripes on that you're looking at 3 years each. That's 9. 5 years each for 4 and 5. That's another 10. So, just at bb you're 19 years in. Now, let's put our 8 back in for the non-bb ranks and you're at 27 years of study before you start teaching at your own school. 30 is probably closer because of time off, injury, variance in promotion, etc. Now, 18 is the minimum age for bb in most systems. 19 to 20 is more normal, but heck, lets use the minimum. You're then looking at a dude (or gal) that's between 45 and 48 before he can even open a school. I think by most standards we'd say that those standards are a bit excessive. Particularly considering that so much of the art is rolling. We let people with PhD's start teaching at colleges as soon as they graduate. Doctors, even surgeons are practicing prior to 30, and they're taking on residents to train. So, for the system, 5 stripes is just logistically out. That said, I'm not a huge fan of such a young blue running a school. But heck, a friend of mine pulled it off in an area where no other jiu jitsu was so, who knows. Like Bob says, it's up to the organizational heads. With BJJ being much less organized that other arts it's not surprising that things like this pop up. At the end of the day, it's a self policing art as well. As long as he's up to the grade, he won't get beat down over it. As to the market supporting a young man like this running a school...time will tell. Solid post!!

I believe that you'll be just fine; just keep doing what you're doing, and you're student body will reciprocate accordingly. Btw, Field Of Dreams, that's the movie...starring, Kevin Costner!!

I believe that you've hit the nail right on its head!! Curriculums are a plate full to deal with, nowadays!! Why? In the hopes of challenging our students each and everyday. Yet, even if your curriculum was as it was/is in Okinawa with teaching a few things for months, it's the quality of the instructions that would make the student not even think they were only being taught a few things for months; they'd be challenged in appropriate measures. It seems that curriculums of nowadays are to match the upcoming testing cycle which is held once every 3 months, and todays dojo's want substance for a testing cycle. The appearance of normalcy!! A typical Shindokan testing cycle will have anywhere near 30 items in the beginner ranks, then double in the intermediate ranks, then triple in the advanced ranks, then quadruple or more in the Dan ranks...and this is on an average, but the number of items tested varies as it's meant to over time!! 10th Kyu will do this many, then 9th Kyu will do a little more, then 8th Kyu will do much more, and so on and so forth all the way up to Hachidan. This explains why a some testing cycles take longer than others! However, our Soke firmly implanted into Shindokan that QUALITY was always at the core, and that QUANTITY is never considered!! My friends who does martial arts with me, kid also does it. Parents are making him take a promotion once a year, until he reaches 14-16 for black. Furthermore, was your Kudan test, the longest and hardest test in the history of Shndokan? Parents are?? Parents don't run ANYTHING in the dojo, or they shouldn't be!! Imho, that decision lies strictly with the CI. To my Kudan testing cycle...YES!! True parents don't run a dojo. But customers overall do run it. Because as stated before, " Then he said if he tried to teach exactly as he was taught, he might have maybe three regular students instead of a dozen, which is still a small dojo. Maybe that is a sign of our times and the general attitude." Which is a shame I'd rather close the doors forever than to allow parents and/or customers to even think for a second that they indirectly run my dojo!! That'll never ever happen, and if I have only 1 student or 3 students, then so be it. I'm not selling my integrity to fill the floor!! And if I've no students because I won't let parents or customers or anyone for that fact, run my dojo, then I'll at least have one heck of a place to train at.

Solid post!! Resistant must be a constant; heavy bags and the like, provide that resistance!!

I believe that you've hit the nail right on its head!! Curriculums are a plate full to deal with, nowadays!! Why? In the hopes of challenging our students each and everyday. Yet, even if your curriculum was as it was/is in Okinawa with teaching a few things for months, it's the quality of the instructions that would make the student not even think they were only being taught a few things for months; they'd be challenged in appropriate measures. It seems that curriculums of nowadays are to match the upcoming testing cycle which is held once every 3 months, and todays dojo's want substance for a testing cycle. The appearance of normalcy!! A typical Shindokan testing cycle will have anywhere near 30 items in the beginner ranks, then double in the intermediate ranks, then triple in the advanced ranks, then quadruple or more in the Dan ranks...and this is on an average, but the number of items tested varies as it's meant to over time!! 10th Kyu will do this many, then 9th Kyu will do a little more, then 8th Kyu will do much more, and so on and so forth all the way up to Hachidan. This explains why a some testing cycles take longer than others! However, our Soke firmly implanted into Shindokan that QUALITY was always at the core, and that QUANTITY is never considered!! My friends who does martial arts with me, kid also does it. Parents are making him take a promotion once a year, until he reaches 14-16 for black. Furthermore, was your Kudan test, the longest and hardest test in the history of Shndokan? Parents are?? Parents don't run ANYTHING in the dojo, or they shouldn't be!! Imho, that decision lies strictly with the CI. To my Kudan testing cycle...YES!!

Great posts, all; valuable advice!! Let me add this... STRETCH thoroughly and properly!! Also... One of the biggest things I see from beginners is that they don't do the complete kick; they short-cut the kick...they leave out steps!! They also rush the kick because they're short-cutting/leaving out steps. Here's our count... UP OUT BACK DOWN Beginners tend to leave out the BACK part; that's, imho, a critical part to the side kick, or any kick for that matter. Balance is affected...posture is affected...power is affected...penetration is affected, so on and so forth. There are two side kicks...SNAP...THRUST!! Both still deserve to have every elemental technical attribute from start to finish!! In Shindokan our supportive foot turns a full 180 degree away from the target in BOTH the snap and thrust side kick...it's just our way. Good luck...train hard and train well!!

Welcome to KF; glad that you're here!!

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Solid post!! Those Okinawa experts, are concerned with being on any list; they're on a list(s), but it's of no concern to them...they're on a list(s), but could care less one way or another. They've proven themselves on the floor!! To the bold type above... Yet, I'm lampooned and lambasted for the SKKA, and the dojo's in the SKKA network, including myself, for not having a website and the like!! ::sighs::

I believe that you've hit the nail right on its head!! Curriculums are a plate full to deal with, nowadays!! Why? In the hopes of challenging our students each and everyday. Yet, even if your curriculum was as it was/is in Okinawa with teaching a few things for months, it's the quality of the instructions that would make the student not even think they were only being taught a few things for months; they'd be challenged in appropriate measures. It seems that curriculums of nowadays are to match the upcoming testing cycle which is held once every 3 months, and todays dojo's want substance for a testing cycle. The appearance of normalcy!! A typical Shindokan testing cycle will have anywhere near 30 items in the beginner ranks, then double in the intermediate ranks, then triple in the advanced ranks, then quadruple or more in the Dan ranks...and this is on an average, but the number of items tested varies as it's meant to over time!! 10th Kyu will do this many, then 9th Kyu will do a little more, then 8th Kyu will do much more, and so on and so forth all the way up to Hachidan. This explains why a some testing cycles take longer than others! However, our Soke firmly implanted into Shindokan that QUALITY was always at the core, and that QUANTITY is never considered!!

What about putting the dryer on a cycle that dries the gi, but won't wrinkle the gi? Or put the washing machine on the Delicate cycle!? Isn't there some chemical to add to the washing machine that will prevent wrinkles setting in?? I don't know!?!? For as long as I can remember, I've always ironed my gi's during my tournament days. Other wise....soon as the washing machine was done, right to the dryer did my gi go, and in that, just as soon as the dryer was done, out to a hanger it went. Dojo training didn't truly require a wrinkle free look for the gi, just as long as it was clean...a clean gi was mandatory!!

Here's the thing, for instance what is a Shotokan Traditionalist ? Is a Shotokan traditionalist a practitioner that only practices what Gichin Funakoshi taught, or is it what was taught by Masatoshi Nakayama? At what point do you say the tradition started, because there is a bunch of difference between what was practiced by Funakoshi and Nakayama and even what is practiced by traditional JKA Shotokan today. I know many traditional Shotokan instructors that think they practice exactly what Funakoshi taught, then show them pictures of Funakoshi teaching weapons, throws, and tuite and they are dumbfounded. Was tradition started with Tode Sakugawa, the Mastumoras, or was it in 1960 something when some American GI was stationed in Japan or Okinawa? Tradition is a very vague and arbitrary term and I also think it's often misguided. Many of the modern day so called "traditionalist" don't even know that Karate is a blended martial art to begin with, do they think it started exactly like they were taught? I would also dare say your going to find it hard to locate any technique in any modern fighting art that wasn't used in some way or fashion, by some old school karate practitioners, at some dojo, at some point in time. Solid post!!

Imho... Bastardizing the MA is when rank is above all things!! Karate...and the MA for that fact, will live on in both worlds...the super fast immediate gratification world AND the time honored world. The MA...Karate...will outlive us all!! You can please some of the people all of the time...you can please all of the people some of the time...but you can't please all of the people all of the time. Welcome to the MA!! Adding techniques have to be tempered, and for cause!!

A MAist learns to control themselves as well as their techniques. And when it's necessary and important, a MAist will not pull their techniques because that too is controlled. In time, this is within all MAist... "I do not hit, it hits all by itself" ~ Bruce Lee In the 5 decades that I've been training, I learnt, from an early time, the difference from control and deliberate; both vital to a MAist, imho. I control my techniques at all times, whether it be for training or for real, and in that, my techniques are deliberate to said target. It's up to the Sensei to teach that which is vital. Albeit, it's also up to the student to learn that which is vital. Controlling both at all times. Listen, we all know what must be done appropriate to the moment. That's what we train!! Our minds know the differences from reality and fiction: reality demands penetration of the target...fiction demands stopping just a fraction away from the target.

Great posts, all!! Thank you, please keep them coming!! Btw, the ridge hand was just an example that I've seen happen over time, and I don't know why it is what it is nowadays. If the ridge hand is taught properly, angles mean nothing and can be thrown. I know, I STILL throw the ridge hand, and I throw it quite a lot, and at different angles. This topic isn't meant to concentrate on the ridge hand strike, but for any technique that YOU'VE not seen quite often in your MA school and/or in the tournament scenes. For example, I've NEVER seen a Shotokan Ox Jaw block executed EVER outside a Shotokan dojo. Even in the dojo, I've NEVER EVER seen this block executed during Kumite training. It seems to be reserved for Kihon drills, and Kihon drills only!!

I believe that the MA does help those who do suffer with ADHD/ADD!! I truly believe this, and I've seen it first hand for myself in my own students over the many years that I've been blessed to teach the MA. I might be clinically incorrect, but I believe that if the CI challenges the students across a wide plethora of subjects within the core style as well as in the MA in general, that student that suffers from ADHD/ADD becomes that receptacle through with one can use. The challenges must be possible; that's realistic! One more...five more...ten more of whatever technique...that's realistic. Teaching flying side kicks to beginners isn't practical nor is it realistic in the realm of challenges. Making the student accept that while it's difficult, no matter what the difficulty might be, it's doable across the board. Taking the drills and spicing them up where the learning curve is sparked and excited over the challenge that stands before them at that very moment. Age is no barrier! Not in the MA, imho!! Challenging the student to see the possibilities, no matter how doubtful one might be at the moment, part of the challenge itself. The student can't hide behind age...being bored out of your skull because the CI doesn't challenge the student in a positive way, is a ticket to never darkening the dojo's door ever again. Who wants to be bored? I don't! Who wants to be challenged? I do!!

Karate, and the MA in general, is more boring than watching paint dry. However, it's not supposed to be an E-Ride at Disneyland [my old age is showing, again]. It's tedious as all get out...one drill after another after another with no end in sight. The MA, while not terribly exciting, it is effective. As already suggested, speak with the CI about the boring factor, because if you're bored now, well, black belt is a door to more tedious training...it never ends. I'd have it no other way!! If you and your son aren't being challenged, then aside from being bored, then the CI is at fault. Students that are being challenged, find the tedious elements FUN, and they can't wait until next class!! Students MUST BE CHALLENGED, this peaks the learning curve!!

Minimums?!?! Godan, but nothing lower than Sandan!! One that's NOT a beginner of said MA!! Knowledge is everything, and a beginner lacks a lot of that knowledge; while a Sandan, and for surely a Godan, meets the minimums in spades!! But who sets these standards? Are they set in stone, or are they just the standards you grew up with, are familiar to you, and therefore, are the ones you stand by? To me, in many more "traditional" styles, this adherence to "this" way or "that" way is what shuts many people off to occurrences like this young man and his school. We are only open-minded to so many things. Who sets the standards? Well, we both know the answer to that question! Nothing is set in stone EXCEPT with the governing body, and therefore, they're followed by those that are affiliated with said governing body. In Houston case, he's within the governing body rules and regulations, and therefore...IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. This thread is a discussion of OUR opinions across the board, as implied by the OP, imho!! A healthy discussion, nonetheless. I've my opinions and it's stemmed from the SKKA, and my own personal ideologies. Am I dead wrong? I'm from the "traditional" ideologies, yet I've an open mind about a lot of things, yet in some things, I'm unyielding. Is my opinion wrong? If so, then we're all wrong, in our opinions, imho!! I'll admit, that the model that the Gracie's have introduced concerning their instructor program is a unique one, having never been tried before, but that's the Gracie's, and it's their given God right to do so. Having a CI so young and a beginner, for me, is a hard pill to swallow due to my upbringing in the MA. As you say, Brian, if Houston, for example, has something to offer that I do lack, then by God, I'd be a fool to let my narrow opinion on this matter decide wrongly. My MA journey would be tainted, and scarred. I don't know everything, and Houston and the Gracie's might be able to teach me something new, and if so, I'll be that sponge because my MA betterment deserves it!! Yes, I could separate my opinions and be taught by Houston because the floor deserves and warrants that of me!! Again, I wish Houston much success, and my opinion or the opinions of others shouldn't matter because he's his own man...that alone, I respect!! The laws of the land say that he can be the CI of his own school...therefore...that's exactly what he is no matter how much I jump up and down and kick my feet in a baby tantrum.

Sounds good! Please let us know what your Sensei says! Until then, train hard and train well!!

"But sensei, when do I get to..." When I say so, and not until then!! Student wants instant! Then buy some instant cereal! I've no tolerance for students that want to dictate the curriculum, and that's what the student's asking me to do when they ask this question. When the time is appropriate, that's when I'll introduce new Kihon, and not until then. The MA will weed out those who lack patience!! If a student wants to quit, then quit. I don't care one way or another...I'll even hold the door open for them, and wish them much success.

Welcome to KF; glad that you're here!! I wholeheartedly concur!! I believe that you'll be slowing introduced into sparing, and that you'd not be going full throttle until the appropriate time, and not sooner. Please let us know how things are going! Ossu Will do, hopefully my sensei does ease me in gently as I don't particularly want to end up black and blue Fastest way to lose students is to make them black and blue; conditioning is important and a beginner isn't conditioned. Old school mindset was...condition WHILST being made black and blue. However, that mindset, has changed, not entirely, to protect the student and the student body. Not the physical body, but the number of students enrolled in a dojo. I can't emphasis enough, and I agree with JR 137...ask YOUR SENSEI!!

Welcome to KF; glad that you're here!! I wholeheartedly concur!! I believe that you'll be slowing introduced into sparing, and that you'd not be going full throttle until the appropriate time, and not sooner. Please let us know how things are going!

To the bold type above... Shall I dare say... Proof is on the floor!!

...and important, has become a forgotten tool of the MA. In the PKA days, late 1970 and early 1980, the ridge hand strike, a formidable strike, was the choice for knocking out ones opponent. Having said that, I've noticed that the ridge hand strike is hardly ever used in any venue. What other techniques, are no longer the tool of the MA in any venue, and I'm including the MA school?? Your thoughts, please!