Drunken Monkey Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 hmmm, wonder if he can download the karma sultra... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
battousai16 Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 i don't see why not. he is the one "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Raminhos Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 or download the final exams for school Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water...
Tibby Posted September 25, 2003 Author Posted September 25, 2003 Screw that, just Download SchooL!!!!!!!
Drunken Monkey Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 that's something. if he does downlaod the information, does that mean he "knows" it? or is it just stored in his head? i mean, y'know when they play tapes while people sleep. they ask them questions about the tape and they can't answer BUT they can recite the tape word for word. anyone know know what i mean? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
kchenault Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 So, in push come to shove, when the crap hits the fan, will instinct kick in or will he get his teeth knocked out? Would the subconcious take over and have the body react? Ken ChenaultTFT - It does a body good!
Warp Spider Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 Umm, I don't think some of you understood the premise behind the movie. All people's representation in "the matrix" could do ANYTHING so long as their real brain could grasp that concept. That's what made Neo "the One," because he finally understood the nature of the matrix and that's why he was all super-powerful-like. It's a lot like the lock-step networking architecture. If you've seen the massive amount of cheating that took place online in the original Diablo, you can see the concept illustrated quite clearly. If a malicious user's computer claims their character has a million hit points, it does. The collective game state is the amalgamation of decisions made by the various computers in it. Likewise, the matrix was not a simulation run by the computers. It was more like a collective conciousness formed by all of the people who were connected to it... like one of those "continuing stories" threads. In the matrix, if a user decides that something happened, it did. It's the mental conditioning from being in the matrix their entire life that prevented people from harnessing that to it's full potential. So, the short answer is, yes, if Neo thinks he can kick high (really believes it, you can't just fake believing it) then he can. So, if an appropriate program were downloaded to make him a good martial artist, he would be, but only in the matrix. He would still know how to do the move in "real life," but he would not be good in real life. In the matrix, it's all mental, and your physical manifestation means nothing. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
kchenault Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 Sorry Warp, we are talking hypotheticals here about that very thing. Did you read the entire thread? Just wondering. I get the idea behind the Matrix very well. The mind is the only limiting factor at all. The fact Neo can be hurt at all just shows he still has some trouble grasping the entire concept or that he doesn't have limits. Ken ChenaultTFT - It does a body good!
Warp Spider Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 Well, I did read the thread, but it seemed most people were suggesting that his physical body would somehow affect his capabilities within the matrix. At the end of the first movie I don't think Neo could be harmed. he seemed to be pretty much omnipotent at that point. Personally I don't think they should have continued the series, on account of the logical problem with the omniscience and all. But that's just my opinion. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
Tibby Posted September 26, 2003 Author Posted September 26, 2003 Well, I did read the thread, but it seemed most people were suggesting that his physical body would somehow affect his capabilities within the matrix. No, you have is mixed around. We where wondering whither or not the fighting he learned in the Matrix would work in the real world, or would his Physical body limit him. We are talking about Him being outside of Matrix, in a body that didn't use his muscle for the first 25-20 years, could he at least perform basic Martial Arts that where Downloaded into his brain? Could he kick with proper form and contact points, could he throw properly, etc., in the REAL world. We all understand the concept of the Matrix. Children raised by wolves understand the concept of the Matrix. WOLVES understand the concept of the Matrix. Speaking of which, Everyone who is a fan of the Matrix and/or Philosophy, I'd suggest picking up a copy "The matrix and Philosophy" It is a collect of essays, very good book.
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