Martial Arts vs. Full Contact Sport Fighting

[pustak]

"I think Tito is a great fighter and he's a tuff MOFO, but even he knows there is someone out there that can destroy him with ease. "

 

LOL! Yeah: Randy Couture, Chuck Lidell, Wanderlei Silva, Quinton Jackson, maybe Vitor Belfort. . . and that's just in his weight class!

 

I think the point that many miss in these debates is that MMA is not based on a certain bank of techniques, and it's not really possible to compare it to TMA's on the same terms. Apples and Oranges. MMA is a training philosophy, and nothing more. It is based SOLELY on the idea that the best way to train to grapple someone is to grapple someone, and the best way to train to hit someone is to hit someone. The best way to train to fight. . . is to fight! As one stands up in class against someone who is just as good as you or better, and one tries to win a bout against that training partner(and the favor is reurned) one learns just what they are capable of pulling off, and what is a pipe dream for them. To think that if I could not land a simple punch to the face I would be able to gouge out an eye(a much smaller target) is not realistic. But if I have trained that punch againt a resisting opponent I will have the reflexes and precision to put it on target.

 

The whole ongoing debate on MMA vs. TMA is a false dichotomy. If you train traditional Okinawan Karate, or Shaolin Kung-Fu with the same *methodology* as MMA fighters use, you will learn exactly what you can accomplish in combat, and what you cannot. Conversely, if I trained MMA-type kickboxing and grappling without sparring or rolling around i would develop only minimal applicable skills. It's been said, but it bears repeating: "It's not the style: it's the sweat."

[Treebranch]

You must learn to walk before you learn to run. Once you have mastered running you can walk again.

[Justfulwardog]

Crush there larynx between your teeth. Tear and rip it out, as much of the esophagus as you can, like a dog. Stand up chewing it, as you give a growle, blood running down your cheeks. After that, I don't think you will have a problem with anyone callin you weak, or vulnerable.

 

You might contract some STDs, but your gonna die from something eventually, anyhow.

 

In this scenario, primal style wins over all. Thank you.

[TheDevilAside]

[kotegashiNeo]

Justfulwardog you have some serious mental health issues

[Justfulwardog]

Thanks

[Treebranch]

It basically all comes down to why you train in martial arts. Sport arts for competition other arts for other reasons. Training methods are key to any viable MA. It really doesn't matter what style it is if you enjoy it. Just because something may be proven in competition doesn't I will enjoy doing it. If I don't enjoy it, I won't do well in it. I think that is an important aspect we rarely talk about here. You excel in the things you enjoy.

[italian_guy]

It basically all comes down to why you train in martial arts. Sport arts for competition other arts for other reasons. Training methods are key to any viable MA. It really doesn't matter what style it is if you enjoy it. Just because something may be proven in competition doesn't I will enjoy doing it. If I don't enjoy it, I won't do well in it. I think that is an important aspect we rarely talk about here. You excel in the things you enjoy.

 

I fully agree with it,

 

martial art training is hard and takes long time to be proficient (expecially if you are an old fart like myself) and the enjoyment in doing it is the main drive. Only if you feel that your body and your mind likes to do what you are doing you can become good at least as good as you can expect.