underestimated

[GrrrArg]

I think judo can be effective but it has gotten the reputation of being a sport and not an MA. However I would say that if strikes are not taught until BB level then lower grades (but still proficient) would have problems if faced by more than one attacker - whilst as said above they could tie someone into a pretzel theres always going to be another person there to kick them in the head.

[Gino]

I was taught Judo by my father(who is a 4th dan judoka) from as young as I can remember up till I was about 14 or 15yrs.It is a great art for children to learn,especially for introducing children to martial arts.

 

Judo, in my opinion is almost a must if you are studing any of the traditional Japanese Karate forms if you want to be a well rounded fighter because Karate doesn't concentrate very much on ground work or grappling.

 

Jigoro Kano, a great man and martial arts reformist came from Ju-Jitsu which is a very well rounded if slighted out dated art form which utilizes every part of the body as a weapon.The problem with judo is it really isn't a complete and effective fighting system on it's own.This will no doubt upset some people but none the less I believe it to be true.You have to be taught how to deal out devastating blows,vicious and deadly blows to be a well rounded fighter able to defend yourself should the situation arise.

 

This just isn't the case in Judo.

 

I do recognize I'm probably biased because my chosen way is that of Kyokushin.If I honestly believe you are threatening my safety or even my life or my families well being I will stop you dead in yor tracks I wiil make sure you do not have the option under any circumstances to have another go.That might mean going all the way,I have no problem with that.I will live to tell the tale you might not.That is the Kyokushin way.

 

That is why Judo is flawed.

 

Judo is very close to my heart and very important to me as a martial artist.I have learnt over the years to try to recognize the short comings not only in my chosen arts but in myself.

 

OSU.

Edited July 24, 2003 by Gino

[Kirves]

Judo in my opinion is almost a must if you are studing any of the traditional Japanese Karate forms if you what to be a well rounded fighter because Karate doesn't consentrate very much on ground work or grappling.

 

Osu! I see your actual point, but I'm being nitpicky: karate is not a traditional Japanese martial art by any count. It was introduced to Japan less than a century ago. It is a traditional Okinawan art and there is a meaningful difference: the history of combat on Okinawa is very different from that of Japan and it means the arts and ways are very different too. Jujutsu (/bujutsu/kumiuchi/et. al.) is the traditional Japanese martial art.

 

[Gino]

Osu Kirves,

 

Yes you are being nit-picky although I do see your actual point.

 

Thankyou for responding.

 

Osu.

[Gino]

In case anyone noticed the fact I've edited one of my posts I thought I should explain.

 

After reading the last post from Kirves I realised some of my spelling and gramma was terrible.I'm surprised you even understood any of it Kirves.

 

Spelling never was my strong pointkqnt

 

Thanks for struggling through it.

 

Osu.

[sansoouser]

the us army training manual says " strikes can't incapacitate someone quickly. " So that being said they do teach strikes, but there moto is less amount of effort for maximum effieceny. Sound familiar? Ya its judos. And they teach just about every judo hold and throw. Mostly all their finishing moves are chokes, not striking, like a throw to a choke then knife them or whatever.

[sansoouser]

well a reason i like judo is because it's full out force. No slow motion actions or light or no contact it's what you wanna do. So for me it's funner than tapping my partners throat with my hand.