Kirves Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 I think the Chinese kiai is similar, but few actually do it right in any style. It's not just a shout while tensing the abs. You have to keep the "pipe" straight, tense the lower abdomen and the "crotch" muscles (much as in Pavel Tsatsouline's weight lifting book). And all that ki stuff to add in... The article I mentioned is good for basic intro what it's about, but not how to do it.
battousai16 Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 ...pipe? "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Kirves Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 I'm sorry, it's hard to explain it in English as it isn't my native language... I'll try: "the pipe": The whole structure forming the passageway for the air from the bottom of lungs to the mouth, i.e. including throat, windpipe and down to the bottom of lungs/diaphgram. Similarly, as if you were to "swallow the sword" you keep the throat straight, in this case you keep the air passage straight. Very good posture for torso, neck, throat, the whole package so there's as direct a line inside for the air as possible.
GrrrArg Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 Windpipe is probably what you trying to describe - it wouldn't be anatomically correct to call everything the windpipe but people would get what you mean - just another nugget of wisdom to help boost my post tally..
GrrrArg Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 Just did some checking up somewhere else and kiai's are also used to stop you getting winded when you get hit, because they are used on that all important last strike where you may not be able to block at the same time. The kiai would drive the air from your body leaving you hard to wind. EDIT: hmm I would agree that BL over did things for teatrics and as it happens im not a great fan of any of his films, but the documentarys I've seen of him training show how good he really was (very).
Kirves Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 Just did some checking up somewhere else and kiai's are also used to stop you getting winded when you get hit, because they are used on that all important last strike where you may not be able to block at the same time. Yes, and here's a quote from my previous post where I adressed that too: "- tightening the body in correct way to generate power for the technique, also protecting against counter techniques" And here he comes again, getting one post closer to black belt by merely repeating what he has already said previously!
GrrrArg Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 Hmm sorry didn't see that one, but I went and explained it a bit more fully anyway.. I assume by counter techniques you do mean being winded and nothing else?
GrrrArg Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 And here he comes again, getting one post closer to black belt by merely repeating what he has already said previously! Don't quite get what you mean would you like to extrapolate please....
battousai16 Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 well, see, now i gotta learn howto kiai. how do i konw if i'm doing it right? "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
killerblackbelt Posted July 25, 2003 Posted July 25, 2003 well looks like all of your questions have been answered, so i will just move on! Being beat is not an option!
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