sansoouser Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 I don't think it's fair that if you fight in a dojo or are a boxer or marine or in some kind of fighting art and you kill someone one or injure them in a self defense situation you get in way more trouble because your hands are registered as a lethal weapon. My grandpa was in the marines and is registered in his hands as lethal weapons. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
JohnnyS Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 You do not need to register your hands as a lethal weapon. Apparently it's an urban myth. If you do indeed know of somewhere that requires you by law to register your hands as lethal weapons, please let us all know where and any accompanying information. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt
sansoouser Posted July 17, 2003 Author Posted July 17, 2003 no no you don't have to register them, if you train in fighting they become registered you don't have to do anything it's just the law. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
JohnnyS Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 Sorry, I don't believe you. Are you saying that when you train at a martial arts school the instructor registers your hands with the police? Tell me where this happens. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt
Shotokan_Fighter Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 iv herd of this, i think its all *, i dont belive it "When I fight, I fight with my heart,and soul. My heart, and soul is Shotokan Karate."Shotokan_fighters creed"karate has to come natural in a fight, if you have to think about using karate in a fight, you will loose the fight"3rd kyu brown belt - shotokan karate
major_motoko Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 no no you don't have to register them, if you train in fighting they become registered you don't have to do anything it's just the law. I think what you mean is if you tell the police after the event that you used martial arts to defend yourself, the law is much harder on you. Or if they find out you are registered at a MA club/org or something? There was a story about a year ago here in England about a teenage girl who was a black belt in Judo. She got picked on in the park by a gang of boys who started to push her around. She beat up the whole lot of em! But then she got taken to court and her black belt was used as evidence against her - even tho it was HER who got attacked!! I think the boys sued her or something Those kinds of stories make me really mad motoko 2nd Kyu Brown Belt, Wado Ryu Karate-do"Daniel-san best karate still inside!" Mr Myagi
Bart the Lover Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 major_motoko wrote:There was a story about a year ago here in England about a teenage girl who was a black belt in Judo. She got picked on in the park by a gang of boys who started to push her around. She beat up the whole lot of em! I love stories like this. It's terrible she was attacked, but I would love to have seen the looks on their faces!But then she got taken to court and her black belt was used as evidence against her - even tho it was HER who got attacked!! I think the boys sued her or something I don't love stories like this. How depressing. Did they win?
major_motoko Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 You know I really can't remember the outcome of that.. I'll look into it and see if I can find some archived news stories about the incedent. 2nd Kyu Brown Belt, Wado Ryu Karate-do"Daniel-san best karate still inside!" Mr Myagi
iolair Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 I remember a few stories like this. It's not (at all) that you are "registered as a lethal weapon", but the legal system treats you less leniently if you end up in court as a result of defending yourself - they argue as a "Martial Arts Expert" you should be able to deal with your attackers without causing injury!!!!! Currently: Kickboxing and variants.Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.
Warp Spider Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 The definition of a deadly weapon varies in different countries, but in Canada it is essentially anything that could feasably be used to kill a person. Although almost anyone could probrably beat a person to death, the courts decide based on how easy they think it would be for you to kill a person with your hands/feet/whatever you used. If you are a black belt in nearly any martial art, it's not unreasonable for the courts to consider your hands deadly weapons. As far as most courts are concerned, it's either deadly or not - if you could kill a person with it feasably, they consider it deadly. If you couldn't feasably kill a person with it, then it isn't considered a deadly weapon. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
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