telsun Posted July 16, 2003 Posted July 16, 2003 I would say that you are training too much. I know some of you would say that I should work major muscle groups twice a week with high intensity. I tried this and I actually lost a little of the size that I have, not to mention I did not notice any strength gains. I find that amazing Building up to big poundages is the foundation of an abbreviated routine. To not gain in strength would suggest that you may have been doing a "kind of" abbreviated training routine. What people sometimes do is train too intense for the body to recover. Training twice a week at full bore could prove to be just too much for you. Perhaps you could have experimented with once a week full bore and once half your max. It is hard to convince folk that abbreviated training works, especially when they have "tried" it and not seen the results that it can bring. Honestly give it another go, read one of the books I suggested and things will really come together. If you look at Stoneskins sample workout it is actually a semi-abbreviated routine. All that said I respect that we are all different. I keep asking God what I'm for and he tells me........."gee I'm not sure!"
StoneSkin Posted July 16, 2003 Posted July 16, 2003 no doubt overtraining, your diet is fine, if you add any more calories then that you might be putting on too much fat, like i said staying hard while trying to get bigger is really really hard. Try a power lifting routine something similar to mine for 3 months only working out like twice a week maybe 3 times and dont do any cardio, you will gain quite a bit, then go back to your old routine to burn off the fat. telsun-pics, ill have to look im in the process of moving right now
Tibby Posted July 16, 2003 Posted July 16, 2003 Yeah, overtraining the upperbody, and not getting the lower nearly enough. It is ok to train 6 days a week, just not the SAME muscle groups. I would suggest no powerlifting work outs unless your going to enter a APF meet or something. It can really cause damage to your body, and it get you unbalanced, they work your Trap, ofr example, but you hardly touch your lats. I've never meet a lift to be damaged during a meet. Most of the pains come from training. THe bench can really #$*@ up your shoulder hen doing it to much, as in in a powerlifting program. If you want mass, I'd find a Wrestling program, full-body, 3 days a week. That will put some meet on your bones and some hair on your chest
daeinwolf Posted July 16, 2003 Author Posted July 16, 2003 Three times a week. Ok. Should I work the entire body each day with high intensity or something along the lines of : First day(Mon)- high intensity, max out. Second day(Wed)- go light Third day(Fri)- max out Or is Stone's plan good if I add more leg exercises? Thanks again---Joshua There are no limits.
Tibby Posted July 17, 2003 Posted July 17, 2003 You are going to have to try it all, and see what you like best, bro. I wouldn't advice "maxing out" 2 times aweek. I wouldn't even suggest it 2 times a month! Maybe 2 times a year. You can go heavy, but you don't need to max out that often. Maxing out is only used to set weights for a program, see your progress, and boost your ego.
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