pcam16 Posted July 22, 2003 Author Posted July 22, 2003 I can do one now but it hurts my knees! Please visit http://philcampbellxma.co.uk and join our forum!
Looneyas Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 A Areial Cartwheel is a GYMANSTIC Move not a Karate Move Learn and u shall TeachTeach and you shall learn,https://www.southpacifictkd.com.au
pcam16 Posted October 8, 2003 Author Posted October 8, 2003 actually an aerial cartwheel is used in many martial arts not just gymnastics! Please visit http://philcampbellxma.co.uk and join our forum!
SBN Doug Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 (edited) Ours isn't taught as a kick. It's supposed to be used to evade an attack at the lower legs while putting distance between you and the attacker. I believe it was mainly used to evade staff, sword, and spear strikes at the knees/ankles. Edited October 9, 2003 by SBN Doug Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
Looneyas Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 Sheeeesh A Aerial Cartwheel is Gymnastic move pure and simple, I did 15 Years as a Gymnast then i moved onto Taekwondo. TKD took the move off Gymnastics. Learn and u shall TeachTeach and you shall learn,https://www.southpacifictkd.com.au
Shorinryu Sensei Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Stop and think about the technique for a moment pcam16. Think about your balance. Forget the crap you see in 99% of the movies where you see moves like this aerial. I don't know how long you've been involved in the arts, but if even for a few monbths, can you HONESTLY ever see a REAL APPLICATION of that aerial in a combat situation? One that won't get you killed IMHO if you do, then you're watching WAY to much TV and the crap they portray as "martial arts", and believing that yes, people can jump 30 feet in the air, walk on water, fight 25 guys at once..blah blah blah! Do you believe the stuff in the movie "Hidden Tire, Crouching Dragon"? Walking onb tree branches/water, floating/flying through the air? My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
stl_karateka Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Rather an aerial is a martial arts move depends on your definition of an MA move.... Any capoeristas in here? I believe in capoeria it is called an au (ah-yoo) or estrella and it is used to get away from an opponent and still keep your eyes on them --- why not just back away --- cause that particular application is relying on momentum and continuous movement. I've also seen it used effectively 2x in point sparring --- and while the point was earned and get some 'ooohs and ahhs' from the audience I think its too risky in that instance. In creative forms they are used all the time....when you can see a clear kick then I'd say it is a martial arts move....or even if it is followed by a block or some kind of combo. Otherwise --- its gymnastics. That's my 2 cents anyway! KarateForums.com Sempai
iolair Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 IMHO if you do, then you're watching WAY to much TV and the crap they portray as "martial arts", and believing that yes, people can jump 30 feet in the air, walk on water, fight 25 guys at once..blah blah blah!Fighting 25 guys at once is EASY - anyone can learn to do it. Surviving the experience, now THAT'S hard Currently: Kickboxing and variants.Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.
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