Sho-ju Posted June 17, 2003 Author Posted June 17, 2003 I thought it was a shotokan off shoot, so it's not going to be listed on your link. Thanks
hobbitbob Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 I looked at your link, no mysterious Gisen Sho. I am surprised at the number of Shito-ryu kata listed, also at the mistakes (Gekkisai are a series of beginner open hand kata used in Goju and Shito (as Ten No Kata and Chi No Kata), no BO kata.). Did you mean Sesan, which translates as "Thirteen" or "Thirty?" Sesan is practiced in most styles of Karate,and is a Koryu (old style) kata. the Shotokan version of Sesan is Hangetsu (half-moon). The concept of "Crusades" is not a pre-modern Asian one, and is native to Western Civilization. If youa re thinking of a traslated kata that describves smashing of destroying, perhaps you mean Saifa, which is seen in Goju and Shito. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
Sho-ju Posted June 18, 2003 Author Posted June 18, 2003 I think it is a western kata done by Christians for Karate or something like that. I dunno for sure. I liked it. It was short and powerful. Aggressive the whole time.
hobbitbob Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 I think it is a western kata done by Christians for Karate or something like that. I dunno for sure. I liked it. It was short and powerful. Aggressive the whole time.And here we go again... There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
Sho-ju Posted June 18, 2003 Author Posted June 18, 2003 (edited) "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him." Edited June 18, 2003 by Sho-ju
Sho-ju Posted June 18, 2003 Author Posted June 18, 2003 I looked at your link, no mysterious Gisen Sho. I am surprised at the number of o-ryu kata listed, also at the mistakes (Gekkisai are a series of beginner open hand kata used in Goju and o (as Ten No Kata and Chi No Kata), no BO kata.). Did you mean Sesan, which translates as "Thirteen" or "Thirty?" Sesan is practiced in most styles of Karate,and is a Koryu (old style) kata. the Shotokan version of Sesan is Hangetsu (half-moon). The concept of "Crusades" is not a pre-modern Asian one, and is native to Western Civilization. If youa re thinking of a traslated kata that describves smashing of destroying, perhaps you mean Saifa, which is seen in Goju and o. I have read (I think it was shotokan planet) that hangetsu is older then most sesan kata, anyone know if this is true?
mArTiAl_GiRl Posted June 19, 2003 Posted June 19, 2003 Don't you mean Gojushiho maybe? Sometimes, when a Sensei says a Kata name, the disciple mistakely hears it differently. When I begun practising Karate, I was mistaken all the time about the Kata names, when Sensei said: Kihon Kata Ichi, I thought it was: Kion Katan ich, lol Kill is love
ronryu Posted June 19, 2003 Posted June 19, 2003 I belive that most styles will say that seisan is one of the oldest kata. Hangetsu is a modified version of the shuri seisan that funakoshi created much like he modified the Pinan into the heian. I do know of a kata that Kuniba Shogo created just for fun at a clinic he was conducting . He just made it up on the spot , I belive to humble some new yudansha who were asking him to teach an old kata. Anyway he called it Gi sake Sho . When asked about the meaning he pointed to his gi then said sake ichiban (#1) and laughed. There are still some people who run this kata . Karate is not a sport , it is a way of life .Sandan Motobu ha Shi-to ryu karate Katsu ryu kempo Ryukyu kobudo
Sho-ju Posted June 19, 2003 Author Posted June 19, 2003 I belive that most styles will say that seisan is one of the oldest kata. Hangetsu is a modified version of the shuri seisan that funakoshi created much like he modified the Pinan into the heian. I do know of a kata that Kuniba Shogo created just for fun at a clinic he was conducting . He just made it up on the spot , I belive to humble some new yudansha who were asking him to teach an old kata. Anyway he called it Gi sake Sho . When asked about the meaning he pointed to his gi then said sake ichiban (#1) and laughed. There are still some people who run this kata . It could be it!
hobbitbob Posted June 19, 2003 Posted June 19, 2003 IF it was actually Gojushiho Sho, I am remionded of the many mispronunciations heard in american karate: Uraken Uchi= yerrAYYkin-YOU-chee Neko Ashi Dachi= nig-WAJJ-DAJJ Shuto Uke= SHOOT-owe-YOU-kee Gyaku Zuki=guy-YACK-oo ZOOW-key Gedan barai=GEE-dan BARRY Kiba Dachi=KOOBY DUTCH Pinan=PING-anne Naihanchi=neeFUNJ-jee, KNIFE-fanch, NEEYANN-gee Ichi=Itchy Ni=Knee San=Sunnnn Shi=Sheeey Go=Gow Roku=Rock (of Hudson fame?) Shichi= Shitchy, Sheesh Hachi=Hatchy Ku=Kyoo Ju=Jew There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
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