ninjanurse Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 Train for all distances and heights, never exclude any possibility. "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/
KickChick Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 (edited) If you abandon high kicks from TKD then you might not do any jump spin kicks as well ... I mean where do you stop until it looks like karate?? I equate high kicks as the icing on the cake!! Edited February 25, 2003 by KickChick
ZR440 Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 Another consideration is what amount of defense is necessary to control the situation. Do you plan on killing some drunk idiot with a head high kick when he can barely stand up in the first place? That will get you 5 to 10 in the pen. It's happy hour somewhere in the world.
JerryLove Posted February 25, 2003 Author Posted February 25, 2003 I think it's foolish to count out any part of an arsenal that you are capable of. It limites choice to do so. I don't believe that you adhere to what you say. How much time to you spend using headbuts to attack legs? Never? Why are you not training a part of your arsenal. If you are a jack-of-all trades, you are a master of none... a good specialist will kill you.If an opening to the head, appropriate to a kick, presents itself then it can potentially stop the conflict. Same with my headbutt example (break his knee), but it's not where I would recommend training. Further, I don't know about you, but in a fight; my judgement on weather a given technique will succeed is not always correct. One great problem with high-kicks is what happens when they fail. My shin-kick misses, big deal; the results of a kick to the head have already been discussed by me.Besides, If you train for head high kicks, delivering center-height kicks become that much more easy...So you don't feel that you will fight the way you train? Some other set of insttincts that you have never used will magically appear and make you fight in a different manner? Interesting.I'm not saying that you should always kick to the head in sparring, but I believe it's essential to kick to the head, when learning how to spar. I know some schools don't allow head shots.. I think this totally compromises your ability to spar. My school allows you to kick the guy going for the head shot in the leg or groin. It also allowes you to drop him on his head. This is why, though many people have entered my school with a fondenss for ehad shots, no-one has ever kept that fondness. We don't disallow them, we make them painful.By training to kick to the head, you will effectively learn how to simply get out of the way, and learn how to react quickly. (You are most likely to react quicker if you see an attack going for your head, than an attack going for your body.) Also if you get kicked in the head, you will learn to "cover up" more. My punch to your head is much faster.If you abandon high kicks from TKD then you might not do any jump spin kicks as well ... I mean where do you stop until it looks like karate?? This was not originally on the Korean Arts forum. I did indeed abandon TKD entirely for another art. It looks nothing like Karate. https://www.clearsilat.com
KickChick Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 If you abandon high kicks from TKD then you might not do any jump spin kicks as well ... I mean where do you stop until it looks like karate?? This was not originally on the Korean Arts forum. I did indeed abandon TKD entirely for another art. It looks nothing like Karate. ok then that explains it. I (as probably everyone else here) thought you were referring to TKD. Maybe a moderator moved this thread to the wrong forum ...
JerryLove Posted February 25, 2003 Author Posted February 25, 2003 The original thread was a discussion of why TKD gets brought up when a discussion of "mcDojos" occurs. A sub-topic (stareted in regards to people claiming TKD schools with an entirely self-defese focus) started on things done in all TKD schools which do not represent a pure combat focus (high kicks). The merits of kicking high subthread got borken off and moved here (since it was in the context of TKD schools). This is a discussion of the choice to kick high, and its applicability to self-defnse. There was a specific assumption that it was "the TKD type of kicks" being discussed. https://www.clearsilat.com
SBN Doug Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 (edited) I believe it was Mr.Lee who said "Kicking someone's head is like punching someone's foot". So, let's ask the obvious leading question; how many of you in "fighting-oriented TKD schools) have functionally abandoned high kicks in favor of low ones? With a specific question being addressed to "fighting-oriented TKD schools", I felt more people would benefit from the discussion in a forum that actually has TKD practitioners reading it on a regular basis. Edited February 25, 2003 by SBN Doug Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
monkeygirl Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 (edited) I realize now why the thread was put into the Korean Arts Forum, but it seems to be becoming a more generalized topic, so I moved it to General Chat. Edited February 25, 2003 by monkeygirl 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
KickChick Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 So you are referring to TKD.... am I the only one who is lost here???
kchenault Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 Haven't we had this conversation like a million times before on other threads? Some people like them, some don't. End of story. We who use & practice them, see the benefits. Hopefully we see the downfalls as well. Agree to disagree and quit beating a dead horse people! Ken ChenaultTFT - It does a body good!
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