SaiFightsMS Posted February 13, 2003 Posted February 13, 2003 I think the presence or lack thereof, of natural resources to make weapons out of may have also been a factor.
Tobias_Reece Posted February 13, 2003 Posted February 13, 2003 I think the main problem is the complete lack of solid sword form. No other weapon comes close, other than possably the stave. The Okinwanan weapons are farming tools and not really any comparison to the elite weapons of the Bushi. There the fact............ I'm sorry, but that sounds like art bashing, which you seem to be against Kensai. There is no difference saying "BJJ is better than karate" than "Sword is stronger than staff". It depends on the practitioner, doesn't it - that seem to be what you preach. "You Are Never Given A Dream Without Also Being Given The Power To Make It True. You May Have To Work For It, However"Principal Kobudo Instructor & OwnerWest Yorkshire Kobudo Academy2nd Kyu (Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo, IOKA UK)
LeaF Posted February 13, 2003 Posted February 13, 2003 It depends on the practitioner, doesn't it I aggree tobias with you but I don't think it as clear cut in the weaponed arts. Some weapons have an obvious advantage over others just based on the physical advantages/disadvantages. But I do agree with you in saying that their is not supreme weapon, and kensai for you to say this I think you are very wrong. Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN
Tobias_Reece Posted February 13, 2003 Posted February 13, 2003 Yes, I do agree that some weapons are 'better' than others at dealing with other certain weapon, BUT, I would rather hold a staff against someone holding tonfa who has no idea to use them. Then again, I would rather hold tonfa against someone with a stff PS. (e)-men rule......in more ways than one, eh Kensai? "You Are Never Given A Dream Without Also Being Given The Power To Make It True. You May Have To Work For It, However"Principal Kobudo Instructor & OwnerWest Yorkshire Kobudo Academy2nd Kyu (Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo, IOKA UK)
Kensai Posted February 13, 2003 Author Posted February 13, 2003 Indeed they do Tobaid indeed they do. And Leaf, I have not really done anything wrong. In general, the Samurai were out numbered. And their quality won the day, same with the Mongols. As for this Flame war, its just joking about. Tobais studies an art that uses garden tools, like TROWLS. He really wants a Katana and he just cant. MWhahahahaha
Tobias_Reece Posted February 13, 2003 Posted February 13, 2003 Kensai You have already proved you know very little about the martial arts, plus you have very unreasonable opinions. Besides, my "Trowel of Destruction +2 Strength" is far superior to your "Wooden Stick of Weakness - 2 Constitution" (I think I've been playing too much D&D ) "You Are Never Given A Dream Without Also Being Given The Power To Make It True. You May Have To Work For It, However"Principal Kobudo Instructor & OwnerWest Yorkshire Kobudo Academy2nd Kyu (Matayoshi Okinawan Kobudo, IOKA UK)
kchenault Posted February 14, 2003 Posted February 14, 2003 Next you'll be calling him a "HOE" Ken ChenaultTFT - It does a body good!
LeaF Posted February 14, 2003 Posted February 14, 2003 hmm, this has got me thinking. If I recall the Kobudo came into development in response to the japanese rule over okinawa, not as a defense to it. Therefore one could conclude that prior to the invsaion by japan, there was no kobudo. I am not sure of my understanding on this, perhaps tobias or someone else can offer their take on this Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN
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