Spike2184 Posted December 4, 2002 Posted December 4, 2002 hey, i'm thinking of starting martial arts and was looking for a good school in terms of self defense, getting a good workout, and just a good style in general....any of you east coast guys ever try tiger schulmann's?? is it a respectable style...supposedly it contains elements of karate, kick boxing, and submission wrestling...
KickChick Posted December 4, 2002 Posted December 4, 2002 http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=2583 ...BTW Welcome! Stop by Introductions
ramymensa Posted December 4, 2002 Posted December 4, 2002 Welcome. A question though ... Why is it called karate? This term should be use only when reffering to the few styles that make up that category of karate. Why any style would call itself karate? Because it's a very famous name? Submission, grappling, kickboxing are great BUT they are not karate. Karate are shotokan, gojo-ryu and other few style related. Just them. And they are called Karate because not only it means kara-te (empty hand), but because of their common origin which has something to do with Japan. I rest my case and my fingers Sorry, but I get fed up with this ... Karate karate karate and the style has nothing to do with the real thing. If it's not karate, why call it that way? World Shotokan Karate
shotochem Posted December 4, 2002 Posted December 4, 2002 No!.... be nice..... if you dont have anything nice to say.......... They have cool commercials???? BEWARE OF THE MONEY SUCKING MACHINE!!!!!! They are very much into long term contracts and are quite expensive. As for overall MA quality........ Supersize it for $100 more and would you like fries with that????? (sorry I couldnt help myself ) Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime.
SBN Doug Posted December 4, 2002 Posted December 4, 2002 My problem with their commercials, is that they seem to have nothing but kids. And I mean little kids. And for those of us that know, that's where all the big money is. Therefore, it looks a little fishy. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
KickChick Posted December 4, 2002 Posted December 4, 2002 Welcome. A question though ... Why is it called karate? This term should be use only when reffering to the few styles that make up that category of karate. Why any style would call itself karate? Because it's a very famous name? Submission, grappling, kickboxing are great BUT they are not karate. Karate are shotokan, gojo-ryu and other few style related. Just them. And they are called Karate because not only it means kara-te (empty hand), but because of their common origin which has something to do with Japan. I rest my case and my fingers Sorry, but I get fed up with this ... Karate karate karate and the style has nothing to do with the real thing. If it's not karate, why call it that way? The name "Karate" is used almost generically to describe many different types of hand and foot combat. There are many styles and substyles of karate including the ones you mentioned and shorin ryu, kyokushin ryu and ashihara karate among others. I mean someone started a thread here about calling their art (which is Tae Kwon Do) "karate".... I mean a "better" generic "term" would be "martial art" for schools to use in advertising if they happen to have a curriculum that comprises several styles ... but, true I have seen many schools use "karate" in their title because the public has a better conception of that "word". ... but I could be wrong More on TS here ... http://www.blackbeltmag.com/archives/blackbelt/1999/jun99/tig.html ...seems its been said thatSchulmann's schools are a prime example of where the martial arts in America are headed... ok enuff said!
Kyle-san Posted December 4, 2002 Posted December 4, 2002 Geez, for someone to have come from an Oyama's dojo and end up doing nothing more than contributing to the bad flow of McDojos seems pretty sad to me. I mean, the self-defense techniques pictured on that page look like they need more strength than anything to work.
Red J Posted December 5, 2002 Posted December 5, 2002 The term "Karate" is overused as a marketing tool to the general public to describe almost any martial art. IMO the term is used because of its universal connotation and is probably more understood than the term "Martial Arts". I had to lose my mind to come to my senses.
ramymensa Posted December 5, 2002 Posted December 5, 2002 More on TS here ... http://www.blackbeltmag.com/archives/blackbelt/1999/jun99/tig.html ...seems its been said thatSchulmann's schools are a prime example of where the martial arts in America are headed... ok enuff said! Thank you for the link. Well they've lost their karategi, but they've got coloured pants and nice looking pecs. wonder where could I find something like that? Does Kamikaze or Adidas sell this? World Shotokan Karate
monkeygirl Posted December 5, 2002 Posted December 5, 2002 The name "Karate" is used almost generically to describe many different types of hand and foot combat. There are many styles and substyles of karate including the ones you mentioned and shorin ryu, kyokushin ryu and ashihara karate among others. I mean someone started a thread here about calling their art (which is Tae Kwon Do) "karate".... I mean a "better" generic "term" would be "martial art" for schools to use in advertising if they happen to have a curriculum that comprises several styles ... but, true I have seen many schools use "karate" in their title because the public has a better conception of that "word". ... but I could be wrong My school's basic style is Tae Kwon Do, (the term "modern-american" was something I coined for simplicity purposes; my style is not pure tkd, it is a mix of many different styles resulting in what my instructor likes. Whenever I told people this they said "that's not tkd"--and Modern-american is born!) anyway it's TKD, but it's a "Karate Studio", for exactly the purposes KickChick stated. Before I joined my studio, terms like "Tae Kwon Do" and other fancy long names would be quite intimidating. However, karate is a rather public-friendly term. I mean, it's not like there's ever been a "Tae Kwon Do Kid" movie. We explain to people that karate is a generic term. Think back to the days before you knew anything about MA. You probably called it all karate or kung fu, just like you would call any old tissue a Kleenex, regardless of whether or not it was Puffs. Once you knew more, you learned that karate is a style of its own and very different from kung fu/tkd/whatever. The point is, not many people know that right off the bat. Anyway, that may help to clear up the Karate business. Also, please try to remember that advertisement a McDojo does not make. Believe it or not, dojos DO require SOME money for rent, utilities, equipment, etc. Anyway, I don't know anything about Tiger Schullman. 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
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