Minimum number of students

[Luther unleashed]

Wow that's crazy, 100 is quite high to me. In my area I would say 50 is more of an actual average. I javelin a smaller place as some may have seen but for me to break even and make no profit at all I need roughly 20 students. 20 is so low that I figured if I can't make 20 students happen Ito might be time to go back to being a mechanic... NOT!

I see the number per class because of how many pieces of tape I want to have a student to standing at. The number is 10 to 15. If every class I ran had 10 to 15 students in it I'd make a good living at teachinges. I javelin been open for 1 week and I am at 12 and one adulthat trying the first week free so hopefully 13 after Wednesday

Should be doable, I just hope it's doable by the time rent needs to be paid and electric shows itself haha. Again 100 jist sounds ds high to me. Even with a bigger place it's a stiff number.

[ashworth]

At the moment I'm only running a small club, two classes, one for kids and one for the older students. for me to break even with the cost of hiring the dojo I only need 3 students! which is good for me as I prefer teaching small classes of between 5-10 to focus more on students individual needs.

[hammer]

I train at a small dojo, both in numbers of students and space...for the adult class we usually have 4-6 students and in all honesty if we had any more than 8 it would get too crowded.

[JR 137]

We had 25 students (all adults, except 1) at our Kagami Biraki (New Years traditional workout). There wasn't very much room to move. We have 2 classes per night, on Monday-Thursday and Saturday. The kids' classes average around 10, and the adult classes other than black belt class will have about 5-8, depending on the night. 10 is a big class in our dojo. We get a pretty good turnout, relatively speaking, during promotional tests. There's typically 2 or 3 adult kyus testing, but a lot of people, especially black belts, show up to support those testing and be sparring partners.

Partially due to our size, we're very tight-knit. We're pretty black belt heavy, currently with only about 5 out of about 22 adults being kyus (myself included).

[JohnASE]

As is obvious from others' posts, this varies greatly depending on specifics. One customer told me his breakeven point was 50 students. He was renting a dedicated retail space in a suburban shopping center. If you're in a warehouse or industrial complex or share space in a community center, you would likely have significantly lower rent and would need fewer students. Someone I know rented time in someone else's dojo and only needed 3 or 4 students to cover the small hourly fee requested.

[Hawkmoon]

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To look at MA as a profit line, I say to you three letters:

 

G.K.R.

To the bold type above...

I don't look at the MA as a profit line, BUT, as the owner of a dojo/retail, I do look at the P&L because that's what a responsible business owner does......

Please believe me when I say that I'm the furthest thing from a McDojo!!

I truly have no doubt inmy mind that 'McDojo' is a way way off into the dark to far to reach places of your mind Sensei8, no no please that's not the direction here.

I get and understand that the P&L of any venture is important, and will become more important as things develop and grow.

No no what I refer to what I see here and so the feeling I get the idea of making 'a quick buck!'out of any sport, especially my beloved karate!

So to create a dojo with the drive being profit line....like i suggest G.K.R.

Please do it for love of the art, do it to give to the community, if you get it right it will grow and give you a profit line.

(Part of my disdain for Hollywood and its presentation of MA in films and TV ... MA is portrayed with a certain childish pazazz that its really does not deserve.)

Regarding sports used as a means to make 'a quick buck' for example;

The other day in the news here in the UK, I caught the tail end of a news report about local government (Councils) considering the idea of charging people to run around local parks!

To make 'a quick buck' out of peoples desire to stay in shape, whilst they run around public open spaces!

Madness!

No please to repeat! Create a dojo for the love of the art, the love of the sport, if you get it right student growth, reputation will all grow and so will income!