Karate4Life Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 OSU!I have found that kata practice becomes more and more challenging as time passes. I seem to find more and more errors in my performance the more I do them, and I believe that the more we advance the more we become aware of even the tiniest details that escaped us when we started to practice. So for me it's a lifelong challenge, and I have found that my kata has changed over time. They feel different, they look different. I wish you luck on your quest and on your development of Suparinpei.OSU! Just Karate
Sanzinsoo Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 A lot of people pronounce the Kata name of Gojuryu incorrectly. For example, not Suparinpei, but "Suparinpe". Not Seisan, but "Sesan". Anyway, nowadays it is rare to see the correct performance of Kata of Gojuryu. It is so sad! This is because some people propagated the incorrect Kata through video or Internet. I show you my Suparinpe.http://yamada-san.blogspot.jp/2014/03/suparinpe-in-shin-sekai-ichiba.html SanzinsooOkinawan Gojuryu KarateOsaka, Japansanzinsoo@hotmail.com
Nidan Melbourne Posted September 11, 2014 Author Posted September 11, 2014 A lot of people pronounce the Kata name of Gojuryu incorrectly. For example, not Suparinpei, but "Suparinpe". Not Seisan, but "Sesan". Anyway, nowadays it is rare to see the correct performance of Kata of Gojuryu. It is so sad! This is because some people propagated the incorrect Kata through video or Internet. I show you my Suparinpe.http://yamada-san.blogspot.jp/2014/03/suparinpe-in-shin-sekai-ichiba.htmlWhen you talk about pronounciation of kata, you forget that there are thousands of languages, so the particular pronounciation of kata would be slightly different. Since Karate has it's origins in Okinawa and furthermore deep in China those of 'Asian' Decent will pronounce it differently to those who don't speak japanese or chinese. Also there is no one 'correct' version of kata throughout the styles. There are thousands of variations of it. Each version is correct for that persons school. Plus Goju-Ryu isn't the only style that performs this kata, so by you saying that people propagated the 'incorrect' kata then your basically saying either we are wrong or one of the other styles is wrong. Even though the old masters taught it in a particular way with certain intentions and the law of the time. There will be differences in how it is performed and also has been taught throughout all the generations. When Miyagi Sensei taught this kata to his students and then when they [the students] taught it to their students there will be differences in the way it was done. Because it felt right for them. So each student therefore would have minor differences to it.
sensei8 Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 A lot of people pronounce the Kata name of Gojuryu incorrectly. For example, not Suparinpei, but "Suparinpe". Not Seisan, but "Sesan". Anyway, nowadays it is rare to see the correct performance of Kata of Gojuryu. It is so sad! This is because some people propagated the incorrect Kata through video or Internet. I show you my Suparinpe.http://yamada-san.blogspot.jp/2014/03/suparinpe-in-shin-sekai-ichiba.htmlWhen you talk about pronounciation of kata, you forget that there are thousands of languages, so the particular pronounciation of kata would be slightly different. Since Karate has it's origins in Okinawa and furthermore deep in China those of 'Asian' Decent will pronounce it differently to those who don't speak japanese or chinese. Also there is no one 'correct' version of kata throughout the styles. There are thousands of variations of it. Each version is correct for that persons school. Plus Goju-Ryu isn't the only style that performs this kata, so by you saying that people propagated the 'incorrect' kata then your basically saying either we are wrong or one of the other styles is wrong. Even though the old masters taught it in a particular way with certain intentions and the law of the time. There will be differences in how it is performed and also has been taught throughout all the generations. When Miyagi Sensei taught this kata to his students and then when they [the students] taught it to their students there will be differences in the way it was done. Because it felt right for them. So each student therefore would have minor differences to it.Very solid post!! **Proof is on the floor!!!
Nidan Melbourne Posted September 12, 2014 Author Posted September 12, 2014 A lot of people pronounce the Kata name of Gojuryu incorrectly. For example, not Suparinpei, but "Suparinpe". Not Seisan, but "Sesan". Anyway, nowadays it is rare to see the correct performance of Kata of Gojuryu. It is so sad! This is because some people propagated the incorrect Kata through video or Internet. I show you my Suparinpe.http://yamada-san.blogspot.jp/2014/03/suparinpe-in-shin-sekai-ichiba.htmlWhen you talk about pronounciation of kata, you forget that there are thousands of languages, so the particular pronounciation of kata would be slightly different. Since Karate has it's origins in Okinawa and furthermore deep in China those of 'Asian' Decent will pronounce it differently to those who don't speak japanese or chinese. Also there is no one 'correct' version of kata throughout the styles. There are thousands of variations of it. Each version is correct for that persons school. Plus Goju-Ryu isn't the only style that performs this kata, so by you saying that people propagated the 'incorrect' kata then your basically saying either we are wrong or one of the other styles is wrong. Even though the old masters taught it in a particular way with certain intentions and the law of the time. There will be differences in how it is performed and also has been taught throughout all the generations. When Miyagi Sensei taught this kata to his students and then when they [the students] taught it to their students there will be differences in the way it was done. Because it felt right for them. So each student therefore would have minor differences to it.Very solid post!! Thanks In anything you do is like a game of Chinese Whispers where things change slightly from person to person and over time things change.Especially when it comes to the preference of those teaching the kata as well. As I would teach a slightly different version than that of my sensei's sensei
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