Nidan Melbourne Posted June 29, 2014 Author Posted June 29, 2014 I love seeing the differences in kata at peoples schools. Other than those who already posted but to those who train in the same styles do you havem in the same order or not?
cheesefrysamurai Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 At my school it's gekkisai dai ichi, ni, sanchin, saifa, seiyunchin and shisochin. That's as much as I've gotten. Nothing Worth Having Is Easily Obtained - ESPECIALLY RANK
armanox Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Ah kata....we have a few that are 'borrowed' from other styles in the mix (non-Shorin Ryu kata I mean)Syllabus is as follows:White belt:Kihon I - VFukyu I - II (Matsubayashi Ryu)Naihaichi I - IIISeisan (Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu I think)Tensho (Goju Ryu)Green Belt:Pinan I - VPassai Sho and DaiBrown Belt (sankyu - ikkyu):Kusanku Sho and DaiChintoGyosho no Kun (Bo)Ichi no SaiMaezato no NunchakuBlack belt (Shodan and up):GojushihoJionUnsuKopassai ShoChatanyara no KusankuTetshoOther Bo kata (4 more that I know of, can't remember names)Chita Shitahaku no saiTsuken shitahaku no saiChatanyara no SaiHamahiga no SaiYaka no SaiAguni no nunchakuAguni ni nunchaku (double nunchaku)Hamahiga no Tonfa "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky
Nidan Melbourne Posted July 9, 2014 Author Posted July 9, 2014 Ah kata....we have a few that are 'borrowed' from other styles in the mix (non-Shorin Ryu kata I mean)Syllabus is as follows:White belt:Kihon I - VFukyu I - II (Matsubayashi Ryu)Naihaichi I - IIISeisan (Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu I think)Tensho (Goju Ryu)Green Belt:Pinan I - VPassai Sho and DaiBrown Belt (sankyu - ikkyu):Kusanku Sho and DaiChintoGyosho no Kun (Bo)Ichi no SaiMaezato no NunchakuBlack belt (Shodan and up):GojushihoJionUnsuKopassai ShoChatanyara no KusankuTetshoOther Bo kata (4 more that I know of, can't remember names)Chita Shitahaku no saiTsuken shitahaku no saiChatanyara no SaiHamahiga no SaiYaka no SaiAguni no nunchakuAguni ni nunchaku (double nunchaku)Hamahiga no TonfaSo you guys are a tad cheeky to borrow some from other schools. But hey every school borrows stuff from other schools
Doctrine612 Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Isshinryu karate doBut not all schools do it this way.White seisanWhite 1 seuichin, nihanchiWhite 2 wansuGreen chintoGreen 1 kusankuGreen2 sunsuBrown kusanku saiBrown 1 sanchin, nunchukuBrown 2 tokomine Black 1 urashi boBlack 2 chantary sai, tonfaBlack 3 bo shi shiBlack 4 - 10 teaching and time.
Nidan Melbourne Posted July 9, 2014 Author Posted July 9, 2014 From my point of view, we don't leave out so much as we don't 'add in'.Since it's informal, belts are not associated with kata; you learn a kata and when you know the outside well enough to keep up you start on another. One can know all the core kata in a few years, and have no rank.Learning order is: Sanchin, Tensho, Saifa, Seuinchin, Sepai, Sanseru, Seisan, Kururunfa, Suparimpe.from a thread about Goju that is also in this karate portion of karate forums http://www.karateforums.com/goju-ryu-question-vt46953.html. What is your style and the kata that are core to your specific style and what are the kata that your school (where you train at) do? Which kata does your school leave out? If you train in a style that is relatively new what is the parent styles? And also which kata did you take from each style or did you create your own?For instance at my dojo we are Goju-Ryu but have hijacked some kata from the Goju-Kai (Kai = organisation) to help our students learn maneouvering and the techniques. Our kata for each rank is as follows White - Taikyoku Jodan Yellow - Taikyoku Chudan (similar to Jodan, except different block & chudan tsuki) Orange - Taikyoku Gedan (shiko dachi Gedan Uke + gedan tsuki) Red - Taikyoku Kake Uke Green - Taikyoku Mawashi Ich Purple - Gekesai Ich + Ni Blue - Saifa Brown - Seeiunchin 1st Brown - Seeiunchin Shodan-Ho - Seeiunchin + Sanseru Shodan - Sanseru + Seisan Nidan - Seisan + Shisochin Sandan - Shisochin + Seipai Yondan - Seipai + Kururunfa Godan - Kururunfa + Suparenpei ALL Belts from Shodan-Ho up (for JUNIORS) MUST know Sanchin + Tensho ALL Belts from Green Belt (ADULTS) MUST know Sanchin + TenshoNow the first five kata (taikyoku kata) are from Goju-Kai which were developed by Yamaguchi Sensei. Traditionally you learn (From Goju-Ryu) Gekesai Ich first and then build up from there. For us at our school we want our students to have an understanding of how to turn and use their body effectively for kata and parts of training. The taikyoku kata in my eyes are a very good way of having students learn and make them think whilst doing kata. Especially when it comes to power and use of hips!For me seipai would be better suited to be after seisan because of the difficulty of some movements in it. Even though there is no real guidelines on which order you learn it, since it is kinda the personal preference of the school. Although you did leave out 2 kata; Gekesai Ichi & Ni which were created by Chojun Miyagi Sensei, which my school (Goju-Ryu) uses along with other schools around the world.
Nidan Melbourne Posted July 9, 2014 Author Posted July 9, 2014 At my school it's gekkisai dai ichi, ni, sanchin, saifa, seiyunchin and shisochin. That's as much as I've gotten.Which of those do you like & dislike the most so far?
armanox Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Ah kata....we have a few that are 'borrowed' from other styles in the mix (non-Shorin Ryu kata I mean)Syllabus is as follows:White belt:Kihon I - VFukyu I - II (Matsubayashi Ryu)Naihaichi I - IIISeisan (Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu I think)Tensho (Goju Ryu)Green Belt:Pinan I - VPassai Sho and DaiBrown Belt (sankyu - ikkyu):Kusanku Sho and DaiChintoGyosho no Kun (Bo)Ichi no SaiMaezato no NunchakuBlack belt (Shodan and up):GojushihoJionUnsuKopassai ShoChatanyara no KusankuTetshoOther Bo kata (4 more that I know of, can't remember names)Chita Shitahaku no saiTsuken shitahaku no saiChatanyara no SaiHamahiga no SaiYaka no SaiAguni no nunchakuAguni ni nunchaku (double nunchaku)Hamahiga no TonfaSo you guys are a tad cheeky to borrow some from other schools. But hey every school borrows stuff from other schoolsI'm not sure what you mean by 'cheeky.' If the instructor feels the kata adds value to the curriculum, then who am I to criticize? All of the 'core' kata are Shorin Ryu kata, and then a couple of been hand picked to 'enhance' the instruction. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky
bushido_man96 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 We practice the Chang Hon system of TKD forms. However, we don't have all 24 in our syllabus, and we have an extra form that our GM added as a high orange belt form.White belt: Chon JiOrange belt: Dan Gun, Bo ChungGreen belt: Do San, Won HyoBlue belt: Yul Kok, Joong GunBrown belt: Toi Gye, Hwa Rang, Choong Moo1st Dan: Choong Moo (1st recommended), Kwang Gae2nd Dan: Poe Eun (2nd recommended), Gae Baek3rd Dan: Se Jong (3rd recommended), Yoo Sin4th Dan: Choong Jang5th Dan: need to check...6th Dan: need to check... (I'm currently 4th Dan). https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
unknownstyle Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 In my Uechi Ryu classes we practice,SanchinKanshiwaKanshuSeichinSeisanSeiryuKanchinSanseiryu.I'm in the process of trasitiining over to Fusei Kise's Matsumura Seito Federation so I'm not sure all the kobudo kata but the empty hand kata are as follows,Fukyugata Ichi, Ni, and SanPinan Shodan, Nidan, Sandan, Yondan, and GodanNaihanchi Shodan, Nidan, and SandanPassai Sho and DaiSeisanWansu AnankuChintoRohaiGojushihoKusanku. "Live life easy and peacefully, but when it is time to fight become ferocious."
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