Finaly tried Kyokushin Karate!

[Safroot]

Thing with Kyokushin is that when you train, you get the car and the keys, and driving lessons

Nice one ... really liked it

[Dani_001]

Thing with Kyokushin is that when you train, you get the car and the keys, and driving lessons

Nice one ... really liked it

Thanks. Maybe that's what Oyama Sensei meant by "Ultimate Truth". He gives you everything.

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The Kyokushin workouts have been kicking my butt, I've realized that I need a LOT more strength and core training. Not that we didn't work hard in the TKD school I was previously at, but there was more emphasis on technique than conditioning. So far I'm glad I made the change.

Only part of the class that is a step backwards from what I used to do in TKD is the kata...at this point the kata I'm doing are pretty basic. That's not an issue for now since I need to adapt my stances and techniques, but I hope to be able to learn more involved kata soon.

[Himokiri Karate]

UPDATE:

So I have done few classes since I made this thread and have sparred kyokushin style which confirms what I was thinking all along, which is that kyokushin is a great style for developing a solid infighting game and being able to take and give body punches as far as boxing goes.

Its so amazing how transferable Kyokushin is to boxing and that you get benefits that are unique since most boxers don't train like Kyokushin guys.

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UPDATE:

So I have done few classes since I made this thread and have sparred kyokushin style which confirms what I was thinking all along, which is that kyokushin is a great style for developing a solid infighting game and being able to take and give body punches as far as boxing goes.

Its so amazing how transferable Kyokushin is to boxing and that you get benefits that are unique since most boxers don't train like Kyokushin guys.

Do you find the rules prohibiting hand techniques above the shoulders to be limiting? I haven't done any open sparring yet (too new) and holding back from throwing punches to the face will be a challenge, even if the punches I was used to throwing were non-contact.

[Himokiri Karate]

UPDATE:

So I have done few classes since I made this thread and have sparred kyokushin style which confirms what I was thinking all along, which is that kyokushin is a great style for developing a solid infighting game and being able to take and give body punches as far as boxing goes.

Its so amazing how transferable Kyokushin is to boxing and that you get benefits that are unique since most boxers don't train like Kyokushin guys.

Do you find the rules prohibiting hand techniques above the shoulders to be limiting? I haven't done any open sparring yet (too new) and holding back from throwing punches to the face will be a challenge, even if the punches I was used to throwing were non-contact.

I did in the beginning but I came up with the idea that Im going to put my awareness on accuracy when I am throwing a punch. For example I will decide were exactly in the body I want to hit, this way I will forget about head hunting since I am making an effort to hit specific targets in the body.

My biggest challenge is footwork, in boxing you can move around and pivot to the lead side. In Kyokushin if you pivot to your lead side, your lead leg is gonna be exposed for a low kick which if it lands may sweep you or do great damage if the practioner is a great low kicker with an awesome timing.

[cheesefrysamurai]

Thing with Kyokushin is that when you train, you get the car and the keys, and driving lessons

With Goju Ryu, you will spend time on perfecting technique, most of the time and the Kumite drills you do is point orientated. In Goju Ryu, you are more prone to making your own decisions on combos, which takes time and not everyone has the patience to do.

At my Goju Ryu school, sparring is fluid, doesnt stop unless someone is hurt or sort of backed into a corner blocking or the time is up. We practice combos on heavy bag, and focus pads but no preset combos for sparring. Our sparring is light / medium contact fighting, controlled strikes to the head.

Sparring is a true mark of progress for me. I was terrible at first, and now, I have a better idea of what I need to do to come out on top. I look forward to sparring now because I get to be creative and see where my openings are and what works on my opponents.

ALSO, probably the most important thing that came from my experience sparring so far is that I am getting conditioned to getting hit, that may sound stupid, but mentally I can keep head now in a fight, I can keep focused on the fight.

[Hawkmoon]

Kyokushin and face punches, is a thing many pick up on and talk ill of!

I understand how people would see this in this way, why they see it, and why they feel its a bad idea!

I don't see it as a limitation simply because if I wish to hit the face ... well to put it simply I aim higher!

I'm not picking a fight or pointing the finger at anyone, knockdown is not easy because face punches are not allowed, its hard because they are not allowed.

What the hand to face contact rule does, is its pushes a fighter to develop faster legs, as much as the defender the need to keep a high guard to defend the head if a leg does come close!

It develops powerful strikes and body blows overall.

The things about Kyokushin combat is everyone gets tough, everyone conditions the body, real hard!

In time everyone no longer feels the a punch or kick unless it is delivered with power, or near perfect timing to catch you breathing etc, so it pushes everyone to work harder to get the edge.

Consider Mawashi Kaiten Geri many contact fighters regardless of school use it, and why not.

A Faster kick and one with a massive amount of power, if it lands it wins the fight!

Nice to see, exciting to watch, painful to be on at the wrong end of, one that demands perfect execution and timing!

Examples:

Anyone when they fight learn and fill gaps in their fighting style the way the rules, the school etc allow, application outside in the real world, tends to be a mad rush at you from the other guy and well placed kick punch or push/shove form you!

[DWx]

I don't see it as a limitation simply because if I wish to hit the face ... well to put it simply I aim higher!

I'm not picking a fight or pointing the finger at anyone, knockdown is not easy because face punches are not allowed, its hard because they are not allowed.

Respectfully, I don't think it is the punching higher that would be the issues but learning to take the punch itself. I think you're right in that to deliver it you simply aim higher but defending it if you're not used to doing so might be another story.

For fast hard legs and hands to both body and head look at pro kickboxing and to a lesser extent international ITF Taekwondo. Some wicked fast legs and punches. Avoiding and taking the face punches takes some specific and different movements than taking a punch to the body. Bobbing, weaving, even the parrying is different to how you'd defend against body punches and kicks to the head.

[sensei8]

I don't see it as a limitation simply because if I wish to hit the face ... well to put it simply I aim higher!

I'm not picking a fight or pointing the finger at anyone, knockdown is not easy because face punches are not allowed, its hard because they are not allowed.

Respectfully, I don't think it is the punching higher that would be the issues but learning to take the punch itself. I think you're right in that to deliver it you simply aim higher but defending it if you're not used to doing so might be another story.

For fast hard legs and hands to both body and head look at pro kickboxing and to a lesser extent international ITF Taekwondo. Some wicked fast legs and punches. Avoiding and taking the face punches takes some specific and different movements than taking a punch to the body. Bobbing, weaving, even the parrying is different to how you'd defend against body punches and kicks to the head.

Solid post!!