Safroot Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I am pretty interested in weapons training but I have 3 questions about it:1- Is weapon training conducted in all Dojos or some don't do it ?2- When is the best time (which Kyu) to start weapons training or it's not related to your rank ?3- What are the legal restrictions on Weapons training and possessing if any ?Thank you and sorry for asking too many questions "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Wastelander Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 1. Many dojo--particularly Japanese karate styles--don't do any weapons training. Some do, but it isn't as popular as karate.2. Depends on how similar the weapons methods are to your karate, and how fast you are at learning, really. It isn't a rank thing, so much as the ability to learn the forms and techniques without getting it confused with your karate.3. Can't really help you there, since I don't know anything about Australian laws--in my state in the US, I can own just about any weapon you can think of. I will say that techniques for bo, jo, hanbo, and sword all transfer over into just about any sort of long pole/stick-type object. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society
Zaine Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 1- Is weapon training conducted in all Dojos or some don't do it ?It is not. However, some instructors who don't do it may have a place that they can recommend.2- When is the best time (which Kyu) to start weapons training or it's not related to your rank ?I started at 9th kyu. Is that the best time to start? Who knows, it's just the time that I started. I am a proponent of starting earlier in your martial arts career however and being that I love weapons I believe that it's something that every martial artist should at the very least dabble in.3- What are the legal restrictions on Weapons training and possessing if any ?http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/1996-75/current/pdf/1996-75.pdfIt seems that "nunchakus or kung-fu sticks or other similar device" are banned under the "Prohibited hand weapons" section, but I saw nothing else about martial arts weapons. Make sure to read over it more carefully than I did though. Martial arts training is 30% classroom training, 70% solo training.https://www.instagram.com/nordic_karate/
Safroot Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 1. Many dojo--particularly Japanese karate styles--don't do any weapons training. Some do, but it isn't as popular as karate.2. Depends on how similar the weapons methods are to your karate, and how fast you are at learning, really. It isn't a rank thing, so much as the ability to learn the forms and techniques without getting it confused with your karate.3. Can't really help you there, since I don't know anything about Australian laws--in my state in the US, I can own just about any weapon you can think of. I will say that techniques for bo, jo, hanbo, and sword all transfer over into just about any sort of long pole/stick-type object.Thanks for your answers .... much appreciated "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Safroot Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 1- Is weapon training conducted in all Dojos or some don't do it ?It is not. However, some instructors who don't do it may have a place that they can recommend.2- When is the best time (which Kyu) to start weapons training or it's not related to your rank ?I started at 9th kyu. Is that the best time to start? Who knows, it's just the time that I started. I am a proponent of starting earlier in your martial arts career however and being that I love weapons I believe that it's something that every martial artist should at the very least dabble in.3- What are the legal restrictions on Weapons training and possessing if any ?http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/1996-75/current/pdf/1996-75.pdfIt seems that "nunchakus or kung-fu sticks or other similar device" are banned under the "Prohibited hand weapons" section, but I saw nothing else about martial arts weapons. Make sure to read over it more carefully than I did though.Thanks for your post and thanks for the link ... I will have a look and see how it goes "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Safroot Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 It seems that "nunchakus or kung-fu sticks or other similar device" are banned under the "Prohibited hand weapons" section, but I saw nothing else about martial arts weapons. Make sure to read over it more carefully than I did though.yes it seems very restricted here in Australia , it's only permitted to authorized instructors of "sports schools". I think I have to check if I am going to buy anything first with relevant authorities "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
FangPwnsAll7 Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 I started weapons training at 3rd kyu. We have bo staff in our dojo. Weapons are a red belt and above thing. We sometimes have red belt classes just for weapons training and red belt techniques. It's the first Friday of every month. Being a red belt myself, I'm somewhat experienced with the bo staff. It's best to start when you're ready. I must say I was ready long before this, but I didn't start actual weapons training until red belt. Tang Soo Do - Red Belt (2nd GUP)
Lupin1 Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I started informally with a short bando stick form at 4th kyu and started my "formal" weapons training with bo staff at 3rd kyu (which is our technical start time for adults). Kids don't start weapons until junior black belt and both kids and adults only do bando stick and bo staff until the Dan ranks. After that, lower Dan ranks can add sai and/or tonfa and only advanced Dan ranks learn kama.
Safroot Posted April 1, 2014 Author Posted April 1, 2014 So it depends on each dojo and bit of personal preference as well .... that sounds good "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
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