Canadian77 Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 This might help you to know. I am just a few months ahead of you time-wise, and I am finding, just now, that with the basics coming a little more automatically the more complicated things are easier to pick up. Learning my second kata was much easier than learning my first, even though it is a more complicated kata. Even the more complicated self-defense routines are coming easier than the basic ones did. My point is that you won't progress at the same pace as you have been. Focus on the fine points of the basics, as your sensei requests - - the more complicated stuff will come to you more quickly becauseyou'll have a firmer grasp on the basics.Also, as a teacher of another physical art (highland dancing - - a very aerobic traditional form of Scottish dancing, done over swords, etc.), I can say with certainty that it is MUCH harder to break a habit than to learn something new. Focus on perfecting technique in those basics now, when they are still new. And also, I still get lost in combinations! But it is getting better. You will notice a huge difference in two months!
Wastelander Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 A wise man once said, "there are no advanced techniques; only basics done in an advanced way." I honestly can't remember who that was, but he taught a seminar that my Sensei went to, years ago, and his advice stuck. Drill your basics until they are automatic. Only then will the more advanced techniques even make sense. Don't worry about how long it takes, either--you have the rest of your life to learn karate Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society
hawkfish Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 I learned the hard way by moving too fast through the ranks. Even though I was able to reach Shodan in above average time, I am still spending a lot of time cleaning up what I did wrong all those years. Bad habits are very hard to fix and even though getting to the Black Belt is the goal, fixing years of bad habits is harder. I was told by more than one high ranking instructor that good kihon makes good Karate so spend your time making each technique as good as possible and then move to the more advanced moves. DougShodan, Shotokan Karate & 1st Kyu, IaidoShotokanMaster.comShotokanPlanet.org
wagnerk Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 If you develop strong basics, you'll go far. To delve right in and learn the advanced stuff before getting the basics right, may look nice but in the long term be as much use as a chocolate teapot Tang Soo Do: 3rd Dan '18Shotokan Karate: 2nd Dan '04
devil dog Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Listen to your Sensei. You can't skip the beginning of the book and expect to get the overall meaning. The beginning techniques although simplistic will be the building blocks of all other applications to follow.Work on your basics and realize that if your in a mixed class there will be students of different ranks and skill levels. Don't judge yourself against higher ranks. Realize that they have had a longer time to train and learn the drills and combinations you are seeing. Give yourself time and you'll get there. It's normal to want to be at a higher level but if you cut corners you'll find out that it only hurts you later in your training. Stay on course and it will pay off. Devil DogGodanShorin ryu, goju ryu, isshin ryu, kobudo.
Safroot Posted March 26, 2014 Author Posted March 26, 2014 This might help you to know. I am just a few months ahead of you time-wise, and I am finding, just now, that with the basics coming a little more automatically the more complicated things are easier to pick up. Learning my second kata was much easier than learning my first, even though it is a more complicated kata. Even the more complicated self-defense routines are coming easier than the basic ones did. My point is that you won't progress at the same pace as you have been. Focus on the fine points of the basics, as your sensei requests - - the more complicated stuff will come to you more quickly becauseyou'll have a firmer grasp on the basics.Also, as a teacher of another physical art (highland dancing - - a very aerobic traditional form of Scottish dancing, done over swords, etc.), I can say with certainty that it is MUCH harder to break a habit than to learn something new. Focus on perfecting technique in those basics now, when they are still new. And also, I still get lost in combinations! But it is getting better. You will notice a huge difference in two months! your comment is very encouraging as usual "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Safroot Posted March 26, 2014 Author Posted March 26, 2014 "there are no advanced techniques; only basics done in an advanced way."That's very wise I liked it "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Safroot Posted March 26, 2014 Author Posted March 26, 2014 Bad habits are very hard to fix and even though getting to the Black Belt is the goal, fixing years of bad habits is harderThat's what I am trying to do my best to avoid and this was my Sensie's first advice to me "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Safroot Posted March 26, 2014 Author Posted March 26, 2014 If you develop strong basics, you'll go far. To delve right in and learn the advanced stuff before getting the basics right, may look nice but in the long term be as much use as a chocolate teapot "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Safroot Posted March 26, 2014 Author Posted March 26, 2014 Listen to your Sensei. You can't skip the beginning of the book and expect to get the overall meaning. The beginning techniques although simplistic will be the building blocks of all other applications to follow.Work on your basics and realize that if your in a mixed class there will be students of different ranks and skill levels. Don't judge yourself against higher ranks. Realize that they have had a longer time to train and learn the drills and combinations you are seeing. Give yourself time and you'll get there. It's normal to want to be at a higher level but if you cut corners you'll find out that it only hurts you later in your training. Stay on course and it will pay off.Solid post and useful advice to consider ... Thank you "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
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