Safroot Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Hi Guys,This is the " Kyokushin Karate 10th World Open FINAL " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voG_EKxP7F0It's a strong interesting one .. for a beginner like me I would like to ask everyone for a professional analysis from an experienced MAtist for this match/game (eg: point of weakness & strength for each MAtsit, good/bad techniques, ....etc)All your opinions are much appreciated in advance "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
sensei8 Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I don't know what it is that I was watching but I will say this: Ineffective techniques equals meaningless techniques. I don't know how the judges even determined anything, let alone a winner/loser of said match. Their bowing was about the only strong technique. **Proof is on the floor!!!
Safroot Posted March 15, 2014 Author Posted March 15, 2014 I don't know what it is that I was watching but I will say this: Ineffective techniques equals meaningless techniques. I don't know how the judges even determined anything, let alone a winner/loser of said match. Their bowing was about the only strong technique. That's exactly what I wanted to know .. this is the difference between a beginner & professional eye For me I still don't know how the good sparring is, so I have seen this as a strong one and your opinion was completely the opposite!!So, What good sparring looks like ? Do you have any video showing good sparring so we can compare it to this one ?!!! "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
sensei8 Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Completely opposite of what I saw in your video link, which was completely absent of:TransitionsFootworkPostureBalanceTo name just a few important elements above that make up the totality of kumite.Study your opponentStudy yourselfMake a planCarry the plan outNot....walk up and trade rock n' sock em punches with an occasional kick!! Even the center judge was trying to get them separated so that they could engage in meaningful kumite. For example... OR... [Two of the best, imho] **Proof is on the floor!!!
Harkon72 Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I find Kayokoshinkai Kumite strange looking at the best of times; it seems that they hit eachother with no attempt to block until one falls over; that's a simplistic over view; and I know there are better examples of the Kayokoshin style. The JKA example is something I relate more to and the second video by Sensei8 is a classic. You can argue that it's each to their own; but standing and taking it is a strange way to fight. Look to the far mountain and see all.
Safroot Posted March 16, 2014 Author Posted March 16, 2014 Completely opposite of what I saw in your video link, which was completely absent of:TransitionsFootworkPostureBalanceTo name just a few important elements above that make up the totality of kumite.Study your opponentStudy yourselfMake a planCarry the plan outNot....walk up and trade rock n' sock em punches with an occasional kick!! Even the center judge was trying to get them separated so that they could engage in meaningful kumite. For example... OR... [Two of the best, imho] YES I liked your first video ... anyway it will take e time till I become good in sparring so I can have the right assessment of any sparring video I watch .. It will be a long journey "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Safroot Posted March 16, 2014 Author Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Are those better sparring videos ?!1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG46AO4wGa02- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k74CEJqKmsU (video quality is not the best)3- 4- Edited March 16, 2014 by Safroot "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Harkon72 Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I watched the first video; I admit, even though my head tells me it's a mad system; my heart goes to confirm that these karateka are some of the toughest on the planet. Enough said. Look to the far mountain and see all.
Safroot Posted March 16, 2014 Author Posted March 16, 2014 my heart goes to confirm that these karateka are some of the toughest on the planetIf you check the last one you will be 100% sure of that.Till now I can't imagine myself in a tournament and getting a kick in my head (with full force) and then who knows what will happen to everything inside it ! Such injuries are very serious ... not sure how they survive it ... but I still love this style and anyway it will take me ages to be able to compete in a tournament (in case I decided to do so) "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Safroot Posted March 16, 2014 Author Posted March 16, 2014 I watched the first videoThe instructors in the first video are direct/first line students of Mas Oyama so you can say that this is the closest to the origin "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle." Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate.
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