twisting hand placement?

[stubbsy]

Okay I'm not sure if this has been covered before or not if so I'm sorry.

Well Ive just been thinking the reason behind the reverse punch coming to the hip?

I understand the whole body,, weight rotation thing Im just curious as why it goes to hip and not to a higher guard position?

Its very similar to power combos in boxing just its to the hip instead of chin just wondering why?

Thanks

[sensei8]

Not all styles of the MA train in the same methodologies and/or ideologies! Where the hand starts and ends varies. Some at the hip, some others at varying levels up to just below ones chest. Sometimes it's a personal choice, no matter what one's been taught. It's your fight, not your instructors, nor is it the governing bodies...it's YOUR fight.

Whenever I sign something, my signature isn't always the same. It's close, it's similar, but it's not exact each and every time; it serves the means and purpose that I've set out to accomplish. So is and so shall be my hands in a MA situation. I no longer care about that which is minimal to my MA betterment.

Wherever your hand ends up, imho, is not that important. What is important is that your technique(s) are done economically. By that I mean, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. However, no matter how economically ones technique(s) might be, they first must be effective.

A push is not as effective as a penetration is!! All things working together to the technique(s) end!!

Good luck in your training!!

[Canadian77]

I've seen a little debate about starting at the hip or not. I am still a white belt and don't have enough experience to say why something does or doesn't work. But I will say that our director has said that one reason for bringing our reverse punches right to the hip is to get our body used to the motion of the hips helping the punch. I'm not saying it very articulately here, but I think that makes sense to me - - practice the basics with accurate technique helps so that when sparring (and keeping the hands in guard position) you have the motion of the hips giving power to the punch as second nature. Does that make sense?

[jaypo]

My Shotokan training says to place the drawback hand at the hip. My Shorin Ryu training says to place it more near my ribs/chest.

I read a book called "Shotokan Myths" recently. The author, a well respected and high ranking instructor said that he believes the practical intention of the drawback could involve grabbing with the blocking arm and pulling that arm to you to drive your punch with more power. So instead of it just being a drawback, it can actually be a pull. In reality, I'm keeping my hand more near my face (more like a boxer) to protect it, unless I have a clear path to attack.

[Wastelander]

I see that you practice Goju-Ryu. I am not a Goju-Ryu practitioner, but as I understand it, they subscribe to the same belief I do about hikite--it is used for what it says (pulling). When I explain it to people, I ask them how they do rows when they exercise. Everyone is built slightly differently, so everyone has a different zone of strength for pulling in a row. That is where you should pull to in hikite. Normally, that will not be to your hip, but closer to your lower ribs/chest.

[wayneshin]

I am with wastelander. (I'm not goju either). If you translate hiki-te as pulling hand, think of grabbing a wrist/forearm with that hand then the twist as it returns to your hip starts to make sense. Then realise that uke does not mean block, it more closely translates to receive and you may start to think about what many learn as blocks differently.

[Nidan Melbourne]

What I was taught by my sensei (I do goju-ryu) you pull back to your floating ribs.

It serves as a dual purpose as a reason to pull in, and to strike to the rear (rear elbow).

So don't always think of it as one way, as every technique often has multiple purposes

[cheesefrysamurai]

I train Okinawan Goju Ryu.

Chamber is high and tight (as my teacher says)

Obviously when we fight, we are in a fighting position, hands in front defensive yet ready to strike

I guess you can say a chambered punch is a perfect punch - but theres no room for that in a real fight and I firmly beleive it was never intended on being the punch used in real combat

[Anaku]

It can be used to escape a wrist grab as well as pulling your foe into a strike or unbalancing them.

[Nidan Melbourne]

I train Okinawan Goju Ryu.

Chamber is high and tight (as my teacher says)

Obviously when we fight, we are in a fighting position, hands in front defensive yet ready to strike

I guess you can say a chambered punch is a perfect punch - but theres no room for that in a real fight and I firmly beleive it was never intended on being the punch used in real combat

I agree with you on that!

When we are doing kumite we teach our students not to start off in carriage position (chambered) but to have hands in front to protect body and head