Nidan Melbourne Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 From this years world games gold medal match. Antonio Diaz performs his signature kata "suparenpei" and makes a mistake on his first step and still wins 4-1
wayneshin Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I haven't seen it yet (and a a Shotokan practitioner don't know Suparinpei all that well anyway)but did he make a mistake ordeliberately introduce a variation. New rules sayAny traditional karate kata may be performed with the exception of weapons kata (Kobudo).Variations as taught by the contestant’s school of Karate will be permitted.
Harkon72 Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Thank you for Sharing, I enjoyed that. Look to the far mountain and see all.
Nidan Melbourne Posted October 23, 2013 Author Posted October 23, 2013 I haven't seen it yet (and a a Shotokan practitioner don't know Suparinpei all that well anyway)but did he make a mistake ordeliberately introduce a variation. New rules sayAny traditional karate kata may be performed with the exception of weapons kata (Kobudo).Variations as taught by the contestant’s school of Karate will be permitted.As much as the rules say variations are allowed now. He admitted in an interview after the match that he had indeed made a mistake. It is a good kata to watch/learn/do as it is one of the most advanced kata in the goju-ryu system
Hawkmoon Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 ...sorry not worked with either style and have no idea what either kata is or should look like when performed.I get that a mistake was made as the judges appeared to have spotted at the end of both performances, but what exactly the mistake was...sorry I'm lost!The judges reaction tells me some aspect of the thee first three steps/movements of his performance.... Sorry need help here, what was done and what should have been done please? “A human life gains luster and strength only when it is polished and tempered.”Sosai Masutatsu Oyama (1923 - 1994) Founder of Kyokushin Karate.
Nidan Melbourne Posted October 23, 2013 Author Posted October 23, 2013 In the kata he did he stepped with his left foot when he should have stepped with his right foot. As most of the goju kata start with the right foot moving (to either turn or have in front).That is why the referees were talking about it at the end
Hawkmoon Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Ouch! thanks for the clarification.(Done that myself with Sanchin kata....got a massive dressing done for it as well!)So a fundamental mistake, performed at the start of the kata.......he wins 4-1!At that level of competitions, a win is not what I would expect to see!Nerves 100% have a role to play in any contest, no matter what the level.Rules are set and a competitor is expected to follow them...a win no sorry not liking that at all and defiantly not with that margin. “A human life gains luster and strength only when it is polished and tempered.”Sosai Masutatsu Oyama (1923 - 1994) Founder of Kyokushin Karate.
bushido_man96 Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 The politics of competition at play here? https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Hawkmoon Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 ....'politics'.....one of the other reasons I stopped training all them years ago!Work was teh main reason it had to win...I had to eat and pay the bills, but politics were really starting to grind me down! “A human life gains luster and strength only when it is polished and tempered.”Sosai Masutatsu Oyama (1923 - 1994) Founder of Kyokushin Karate.
sensei8 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 The politics of competition at play here?I believe that's possible. But, not having first hand knowledge of why it was scored in the manner of which it was, and from what I saw, and considering that I might be quite familar with said Kata, I would've deducted appropriately my final score to reflect that. **Proof is on the floor!!!
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