Ruben95632 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Do you believe in training the knuckles to make your punches harder? And do you think that it would actually help? I used to hit cement and I later found out it will cause arthritis, but it did harden my knuckles quite a bit , and i'm sure it would hurt more and make them more less likely to break.What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Proper knuckle conditioning will protect your hands and make them denser, which can add power to your punches. However, you need supervision by a qualified instructor to train your hands properly. Punching an immovable object is a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wastelander Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 As Kuma said, there are certainly benefits to conditioning your hands for striking, but that is something that you really need proper guidance for. Without the right tools, technique, and knowledge, you can damage your hands beyond repair. I highly recommend that you seek out a reputable traditional karate instructor in your area if this is something you are interested in. While pretty much all karate styles include it, Okinawan Goju-Ryu is probably the most consistent branch of karate when it comes to incorporating body forging into their training. Chinese stylists who train and teach iron palm would also be a good option. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harkon72 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I use a Wing Chun wall bag to condition my hands, it's full of rice and dried black eyed peas. I condition the forefist and sun fist and also my knife hand. It doesn't just effect the hand, it conditions the whole structure of the punch or strike, from the floor to the point of contact. Look to the far mountain and see all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I can't even imagine my training without the makiwara and the like. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wastelander Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I can't even imagine my training without the makiwara and the like. I can't either, but we were taught how to use it properly . It sounds like Ruben has skipped all the way to conditioning like Morio Higaonna without proper training, which is dangerous to say the least. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamKralic Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I would imagine that punching a bag of uncooked rice would be preferable to concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I can't even imagine my training without the makiwara and the like. I can't either, but we were taught how to use it properly . It sounds like Ruben has skipped all the way to conditioning like Morio Higaonna without proper training, which is dangerous to say the least.I agree. Not a good idea. Proper conditioning is a slow and steady process.One also has to consider what profession one is going into. If one plans to be a doctor, it may not be worth actually actively conditioning the hands in such a way if that is where your livelyhood is coming from. Body conditioning can be fun, but its not always necessary. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CredoTe Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I can't even imagine my training without the makiwara and the like. I can't either, but we were taught how to use it properly . It sounds like Ruben has skipped all the way to conditioning like Morio Higaonna without proper training, which is dangerous to say the least.Great posts Totally agree with both... Remember the Tii!In Life and Death, there is no tap-out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I can't even imagine my training without the makiwara and the like. I can't either, but we were taught how to use it properly . It sounds like Ruben has skipped all the way to conditioning like Morio Higaonna without proper training, which is dangerous to say the least.Great posts Totally agree with both...Yes & yes.Training on how, when and what is important, so can I add/suggest a change to your mind and from that your body.Push up! not with your palms or finger tips, with your knuckles!The odd thing is the most important thing you need is a piece of paper!(To start with .....)Start:Take a the push position.Roll forward so that ONLY the first two knuckles are in contact with the floor.The paper is used to test this! ExampleDo 10 push ups. Different muscle groups in your forearm now start to work.Do 10 a day if you wish for say two weeks. At the end of two weeks it should be real easy and less painful.Now do 20 for two weeks, and so on and so on.....If you are 'fit' anyway, but new to knuckle press ups, do normal push ups first then when you are starting to push yourself, swap to knuckle! (Finish the set on knuckles)change the game up! “A human life gains luster and strength only when it is polished and tempered.”Sosai Masutatsu Oyama (1923 - 1994) Founder of Kyokushin Karate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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