Charlewisoe Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 Hello from Belgium.I am searching for the best workout plan for karate.Because next year I want to do shobu ippon kumite tournaments. Besides my 3 days in the week karate training, I am searching for a workout plan that increases my speed, power and stability. After looking on this site it is obviously that Compound exercises are better than the isolated ones. So I googled a bit and this site popped up: http://www.weighttraining.com/workout-plans/karate-workout-planI have no experience at all with all these exercises, so I was wondering if anybody could give their opinion about the program. And if anybody has some good plyometrics training tips to do at home, these are offcourse also welcome.Thank you very much in advance. Member of skif belgium Honbu Dojo
xo-karate Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 HI,to be able to say what is the best workout, one would need to know what do you want from it. The workout from the link is very good for muscle size and strength.It was 2 times per week. You might need some cardio to enhance the process.(If you have endurance already, strength is a good next step.) After that you might want some speed and power types of workouts. (Maybe functional body weight - check MMA and functional training.)I think strength should take about 3 months and then the next step.. and then back to endurance -> strength -> power and so on
Charlewisoe Posted June 4, 2013 Author Posted June 4, 2013 After searching a bit, and asking around, Stronglift 5x5 will be my new training program. Thanks for the advice. Member of skif belgium Honbu Dojo
bushido_man96 Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Stronglifts is a good plan. Other good alternatives are Starting Strength and Wendler 5/3/1. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Charlewisoe Posted June 5, 2013 Author Posted June 5, 2013 Yes, I start with the Stronglift program to gain more strenght. I'm not so strong in my legs and arms. Today I will start for the first time, Monday I had some advice and they explained all exercises. The only problem is that my fitness doesn't have a Squat rack or power rack. In the begin not a big problem because it will not be so heavy, but when I progress I will need to find alternative exercises.One more thing I was worried about, Is it OK to train every day ?Monday: 1 Hour Stronglift Tuesday: 1,5 Hour Karate classWednesday: 1 Hour StrongliftThursday: 1,5 Hour Karate classFriday: 1 Hour StrongliftSaturday: Half Hour Running outsideSunday: 1 Hour karate class Member of skif belgium Honbu Dojo
Wastelander Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 With regard to Stronglifts, I have never been a strong person, but I have most definitely gotten stronger in the short time I have been doing it, despite not being as consistent as I should be. You need days of rest or your body will not recover from your workouts and you will not get stronger, though. I do my Stronglifts workouts on the same days I train at the dojo, but my dojo has a rack and Olympic set so that is easy to do. If you can do your lifting on the same day, I would, so that you can rest in between days. I would also cut out the running on Saturday, but that's just me. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society
bushido_man96 Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I agree with Wastelander on having off days. If you are going to be training that much, then it would probably be wiser to decide if you want more focus on MA or on lifting. Pick one, and let the other supplement it. If you only get two days a week lifting, then so be it. I've read that for MAists, the 5/3/1 has some really good setup variants that makes it great for atheltes who don't focus on lifting, but use it as a supplement to their other training.Also, if your current gym doesn't have a squat rack, then try to find another gym. If you can't find one, then do what you can to buy your own, especially if you plan to really committ to the 5x5 program. Otherwise, your progression will catch up with you, and you won't be able to add weight to your squats. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Charlewisoe Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 I want to focus more on the karate, and do the lifting as a supplement.Do you suggest lifting before or after a karate class ? Then I can buy some equipment and do the lifting at home, before I go to karate class.Sunday: lifting + karate + running ?Monday: RestTuesday: lifting + karateWedneay: RestThursday: lifting + karateFriday: RestSaturday: ?First I want to gain more strength, but I also want to get faster, do I need to worry about my speed with that lifting or not ? Member of skif belgium Honbu Dojo
Wastelander Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I want to focus more on the karate, and do the lifting as a supplement.Do you suggest lifting before or after a karate class ? Then I can buy some equipment and do the lifting at home, before I go to karate class.Sunday: lifting + karate + running ?Monday: RestTuesday: lifting + karateWedneay: RestThursday: lifting + karateFriday: RestSaturday: ?First I want to gain more strength, but I also want to get faster, do I need to worry about my speed with that lifting or not ?This schedule definitely looks better. I lift before karate--just make sure you're staying hydrated! As far as speed goes, as long as you do your lifts quickly you will promote fast-twitch muscle development. Remember that the weight may not move quickly if it's heavy, but if you are trying to move it fast, that's what counts. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society
Charlewisoe Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 And when would it be good to do some plyometrics training ? Because in our karate class, we don't do so much plyo training.... Member of skif belgium Honbu Dojo
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