Strength training and Conditioning training?

[scohen.mma]

I'm looking to become more of an endurance athlete. I do stuff like, Snatch (5x3) as a warm up before i do 3 to 5 sets of the Randy Couture Workout (8 bent over rows, 8 upright rows, 8 military presses, 8 good mornings, 8 lunges each leg, 8 squat and jerks and 8 deadlifts). after that, i'd do a variety of pushups or high reps with the benchpress. it only takes about 30 - 40 minutes and it kicks your butt!

However, doing that three days a week leaves me bored. my next workout day, i warm up with some Pullups, and then i do the GSP Rushfit: Strength and Endurance workout - really hard and fun! Again, doing tihs 3 to 4 times a week would also leave me bored.

So for my Next 2 workout days, i do a Push day and then a Pull Day.obviously all my pushing workouts in one day and all my pulling workouts the next.

I figured doing tihs would be more fun of a workout for me, cuz i'm not doing almost the same stuff each day i go into the weight room. heres my schedule:

Monday: BJJ

Tuesday: Randy Couture Workout, Judo, Karate

Wednesday: BJJ

Thursday: GSP Rushfit, Judo, Karate

Friday: nothing

Saturday: Push workouts(including legs), sometimes Judo

Sunday: Pull workouts

Now, all of my workouts either involve high reps or circuits such as the Randy Couture workout (like in the Push and Pull workouts i do). Does this seem to be a good schedule, or is it too much? I also am trying to include running into this schedule, which i figured i'd do on days i have BJJ. any opinions or suggestions are greatly appreciated!

[Ueshirokarate]

At your age, you should be trying to but as much muscle on your body as you can, by do whole body lifts. You are in the unique position to have the added benefit of very helpful hormones. Your endurance training is your martial arts training. If I were you, I wouldn't be wasting my time with high reps and circuits.

[Evil Dave]

Endurance Athlete is a little to broad spectrum. What sport are you interested in competing / practicing? Are you still thinking MA?

[Ueshirokarate]

Endurance Athlete is a little to broad spectrum. What sport are you interested in competing / practicing? Are you still thinking MA?

Good point Evil Dave. Endurance should not be a primary focus of a martial artist. Question is, who would you rather fight?

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o347/nylistens/sprinter-vs-long-distance-runner.jpg

Keep the SAID principle in mind when designing a training routine.

[scohen.mma]

hahaha, thanks xD thats a funny, but very realistic way to look at things!

the reason that i wanted to focus on my endurance, because of the MMA fighter Nick Diaz, and how he fights. according to Joe Rogan, there are very few fighters that can match the pace he fights at, and they have such a hard time keeping up with him, that he hits them so much that they cant even breathe.

I'm no power puncher, but in my opinion i can be fast when i really put the effort into it. So, with an "unlimited gas tank" at a fast pace, i figure that'd help me a lot!

any thoughts??

[JusticeZero]

Power and speed are related, not in opposition; much of power comes from proper form, speed can conceal poor form, and speed without form is just an ineffective movement.

Nobody can "tank" a knife. "Endurance" is meaningless against a razor blade.

You want your movements to be effective the first time you use them, not just the fiftieth.

[scohen.mma]

hmm, i do see the point your all trying to make. so then as UeshiroKarate said, i should be doing full body lifts trying to get as much muscle on me as i can, because speed will come with proper form, and my endurance should come from whatever martial art i'm doing. thanks everyone correct me if i'm wrong! OSU

[Ueshirokarate]

hmm, i do see the point your all trying to make. so then as UeshiroKarate said, i should be doing full body lifts trying to get as much muscle on me as i can, because speed will come with proper form, and my endurance should come from whatever martial art i'm doing. thanks everyone correct me if i'm wrong! OSU

It may not seem like it now, but you have a lot of training time ahead of you and you can't train everything at once. You need to periodize your efforts and your training for the next few years should center on hypertrophy. You are at a special time in your life and should take full advantage of it, as your body is undergoing rapid change/growth and you have a tsunami of hormones flooding your body. This is the best time in your life to lift heavy and pack on as much muscle as you can, so don't hold back on the eating, but do hold back on the endurance training.

You'll be working on "endurance" as you train in other arts. You don't want to overdo it, as that will hinder your muscle building efforts. Besides, sprinting is far more conducive to fighting than long distance running anyway.

[Evil Dave]

Ok, you have a dream {sorry, lack of a better term} goal. Now take a look at where you are in your training, are you and what level of competition are you planning on entering and what resources you have available. Next you take a look at the bigger picture and plan a complete training package. If you are still in your first couple of years of training, I would concentrate on your main MA, and slowly add more. As already mentioned, work on the full body exercises and big lifts. Check out your local Crossfit gym for a general preparedness program.

If you are looking to get into serious competition then you need to talk with a conditioning coach that understands what you need, as this level and type of program requires more then we can offer you here.

[Ueshirokarate]

Ok, you have a dream {sorry, lack of a better term} goal. Now take a look at where you are in your training, are you and what level of competition are you planning on entering and what resources you have available. Next you take a look at the bigger picture and plan a complete training package. If you are still in your first couple of years of training, I would concentrate on your main MA, and slowly add more. As already mentioned, work on the full body exercises and big lifts. Check out your local Crossfit gym for a general preparedness program.

If you are looking to get into serious competition then you need to talk with a conditioning coach that understands what you need, as this level and type of program requires more then we can offer you here.

I don't think crossfit is appropriate for him at his age. He has a limited few years to fully take advantage of his natural steriods and should be looking to get as muscular as he possibly can. Hard weight training will do this for him and anything too much in excess will hinder this. Brock Lesnar didn't get to be Brock Lesnar by doing Crossfit. Crossfit type exercises are fine, but not in this situation.