Kensai Posted August 9, 2002 Posted August 9, 2002 Atemi Waza, are basically strikes that can kill, Aikido in principle is directly opposed to this. This is the reason why we are not encouraged to use them. I do agree that a strike can easily end a confrontation, but I would rather stick with what I know best and knock them out with a nasty throw. Be Well
ckdstudent Posted August 9, 2002 Posted August 9, 2002 I would have thought a throw would be more likely to kill, hurling someone through the air as opposed to simply hitting them. Ah well. ---------Pil SungJimmy B
LeaF Posted August 9, 2002 Posted August 9, 2002 It depends where you hit them.No, aikido has lots of strikes. We are just really not encourged to use them. They are called Atemi Waza, they are all strikes to pressure points and vital areas. A throw can be excuted in certain ways to prevent serious injury to your oppenant and merely get him/her out of your way Goju Ryu Karate-do and Okinawan Kobudo, 17 Years Old 1st kyu Brown Belt in in Goju Ryu Karate-do, & Shodan in Okinawan KobudoGiven enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result.I AM CANADIAN
Kensai Posted August 9, 2002 Posted August 9, 2002 Indeed they can, in Aikido, those are the sort we train in the most.
OldRookie Posted August 10, 2002 Posted August 10, 2002 Omnifinite stated good logic. Just last night at my TKD class as we were covering self defense, our instructor told us to "Do what you have to do to take him out quick". He told a story of an "altercation" at a park with a guy & several of his buddies. Things heated up & he knew it was fixing to hit the fan so he struck first with an inverted side kick. Striking downward on the outside of this unlucky fellows knee he broke his leg & the sound of the bone snapping & this guy's scream pretty much ended everything. He is not a braggart & doesn't walk around with his chest swelled out. He also told us if you put the attacker down-then you leave,quickly! I believe whatever MA (technique) you are skilled at--use it. One of our instructors favorite techniques if you are grabbed from the front is ramming a thumb in the eye of your attacker! Simple & effective. By the way, most of our self defense techniques are Aikido. A friend of mine at the Dojang (a greenbelt)works as a bouncer at local bar/poolhall a was pleasantly surprised how he snapped a wristlock on a guy & had him on the floor & said, "I did it without even thinking about it." *1st Dan Oct 2004*"Progress lies not enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be.""It is better to deserve honors and not have them than to have them and not deserve them."
Bon Posted August 15, 2002 Posted August 15, 2002 (edited) ::edit:: Edited September 29, 2002 by Bon It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.
ckdstudent Posted August 15, 2002 Posted August 15, 2002 Why exactly was he taking bouncers? ---------Pil SungJimmy B
justb Posted August 16, 2002 Posted August 16, 2002 Aikido most definitley has strikes, but whether or not they are emphasized depends on the style and instructor. I've seen them when working with the Yoshinkai students that cross-train with us at times... As far as multiple attackers go - you should look at some of the sword arts- iaijutsu/kenjutsu. A lot of the engagements will focus on more than one attacker. May give you some good strategies, though I think that simple, direct & efficient are probably the common elements across all styles in dealing with a situation like what was presented. Hope this helps Thanks B
Bon Posted August 16, 2002 Posted August 16, 2002 ::edit:: It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.
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