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well I can't speak for any art except the ones that I study. I study goju ryu karate-do and I firmly believe that this is a great multi attacker art. When we do our katas it is not difficult to visualize the multiple oppentants attack from different directions and it seems pratical and simple enough to apply in real situations. We also do spar against 2-3 oppenants at once so that gives us the opertunity to apply some of the things we learn for multiple oppenant situations.

 

I think arts that rely on getting the person on the ground and putting them in a hold/lock might be at a disadvantage in this situation because if you are holding someone on the ground his budy could easyly kick you in the head or something.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that there wasn't much striking in aikido. How do you handle an attack from two or three people simultaneously in that case?

 

I'd have to say that my art would be as effective as any, we train with two on one, three on one, and many variations, including using one of the people as a shield to keep the other two away.

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If you're stuck with multiple opponents (and you can't run away), one of the best things to do is take down the guy closest to you the first chance you get. Be quick and brutal and vicious. It'll have a powerful psychological effect on the others, and they'll lose their confidence, if not leave you alone completely. It's a bad situation to be in... no matter how much training you have you'd be lucky to come out of it on your feet. They sure won't come at you one at a time like they would in the movies.

 

I don't know what art would be best for a situation like that. I'd say something fast and efficient (you want anyone who comes at you to be on the ground within seconds), with some footwork to keep one of them between you and the others.

 

From my experience I'd suggest Kempo, but there could be something better out there for it.

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I don't think that any one style would be the best. I've had a few experiences with this type of situation, I handled it with both kick and punches, alot of moving. The most important thing to remember is when you are being attacked by multiple opponent, when you knock someone down, they must not get back up. You can't afford to be doing paper attacks, and allow for each attacker to get up and come at you again. I have seen this time and time again. Also, if you know that the attack is imminent, then make the first move, put yourself at the advantage. Don't narrow your gaze and limit your abilites with just one style. Each has benefits. To be strictly a stand up fighter, and not train extensively in ground combat then you set yourself up for the unexpected. I don't study any style, but i hope this helps. :)

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No, aikido has lots of strikes. We are just really not encourged to use them. They are called Atemi Waza, they are all strikes to pressure points and vital areas.

 

The aspect of muiltimple attackers is covered alot in Aikido. Depends on the sort of attack of course, O Sensei always used the discription of a whirl wind surrounding the Aikidoka, so using one oppenent to shield you from another using his body. Ofcourse, we deal with more situations than that of being encirculed. Also being held from behind and another is striking you etc. Also being held to the floor by several people.

 

I can answer any further questions you have in detail if you wish?

 

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Why are you not encouraged to use them? A good solid strike can end a fight just as quickly as any lock, pin, throw, whatever. And it also has the advantage that if you do knock them out it'll scramble their memory, making it somewhat harder for them to testify.

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I believe no one art is better...I think that you have to train for it in every art. If you have no training in it then you will not know what to exspect. So the best things are your mind and training to be prepared.

 

If you want to look at it in an art sense. Then I think...

 

Aikido

 

Aiki Jutsu

 

A striking art that has incorparated a joint locking style or moves.

 

(ex: Kempo with an Aiki Jutsu touch)

 

Grappling arts that keep you on your feet and make them fall.

 

So you see it depends on how you train.... :) :wink:

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