albeaver89 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Has anyone ever made up a kata using two diffrent weapons, such as a kama and sai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Anyone have any thoughts on this one?Thanks,Patrick Patrick O'Keefe - KarateForums.com AdministratorHave a suggestion or a bit of feedback relating to KarateForums.com? Please contact me!KarateForums.com Articles - KarateForums.com Awards - Member of the Month - User Guidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toptomcat Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Classically, there's the tinbe-rochin, the traditional Okinawan pairing of a small shield (archetypically made from a turtle shell) and a short spear. It's one of those strange little corners of kobudo.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q349Gt1gLlY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeaver89 Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 I thought about using a sia with a kodatchi, two different weapons as one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toptomcat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 A sai with a kodachi? That'd be more than a little unusual because it'd be mixing historical classes of weapons, one a traditional Okinawan kobudo weapon and one a Japanese sword. It does make a certain amount of martial sense, however: there's a lot of mileage to be gotten out of the idea of a one-handed sword and an off-handed parrying weapon. It's terrain more thoroughly explored by Western than Eastern sword arts: if you're feeling particularly adventurous, you might even look into Rennisance-era main-gauche play for inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlan Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 The closest we've come to that is experimenting using a sai AS a tonfa, and vice versa. (yech)Also, I guess I'd kinda think of eaku, nunti-bo, and to a lesser extent quwa and sansetsukon as having the qualities of two different weapons. Another would be chisi as it employs more empty hand techniques. Leaves fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 At once? Nope! Other than the tinbe-rochin that Toptomcat mentioned. It [different weapons at the same time] could be doable until I picked up a weapon that required the use of both of my hands to wield it. Still, it's an interesting thought and the combinations are quite intriguing...which with my luck, I'd only end up hurting myself for one reason or another. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeaver89 Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 I talked to my Sensi and he said that you could us two weapons, like the sia and sword, or jo. and they might have done it historically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roys15 Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 It is common at our Blackbelt testings for sensei to hand a student a tonfa and a sai, or tonfa/sword, sai/kama,etc. and tell the student to perform a specific kata. The reasons for this are twofold I believe. One to demonstrate that the basic principles behind any weapon are generally the same, and two to test the students improvisation ability.I've welded two weapons of a different sort, and I've seen several people do it. It's all about the basics. If a blackbelt is easy to attain then you have to question the worth of the rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzu-Logic Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 In eskrima there are several things that use a stick (rattan aaround 26" or so...) and a knife in the other...I don't really know them yet (too advanced for me)Also there is a whole style called espada y daga which is shield and dagger. A warrior may choose pacifism, all others are condemned to it."Under the sky, under the heavens, there is but one family." -Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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