Ichi_Geki Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 There are seven martial arts - military arts -The seven classical martial arts are wrestling,running, javelin (spear) throwing, archery, swordsmanship, swimming, andhorseback riding. These are the arts of military training for the typicalJapanese soldier in the feudal era. Karate was and is still not one ofthem. Although they use some selected techniques set forth by the JKA...but not enough to consider it a full fledged martial art.Just Though I would share this with you wonderful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toptomcat Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 No melee spearfighting? I understand that was a core samurai skill for quite a while, more important than swordplay in the period when samurai actually made full-scale war regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElShaft Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Yeah because Karate is Okinawan and not Japanese? "The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilised community , against his will, is to prevent harm to others" (J.S Mill, On Liberty; 135) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I didn't know that swimming was listed as a martial arts; very interesting to me.Thanks for the info Ichi_Geki **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichi_Geki Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Melee spear fighting was more of a extra curriculum perse. It was common that many people could wield a spear in close ranges, better then they could throw. But throwing it was the art part.And yes Kara Te Do is okinawan. It was publicized in Japan by Funakoshi Gichin. I am sure it was there before he was, but he just made it popular..And Yes Sensei8...go figure...Michael Phelps is a martial artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperki Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Water polo seems more martial to me than swimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Yeah because Karate is Okinawan and not Japanese?Give this man a cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanox Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Melee spear fighting was more of a extra curriculum perse. It was common that many people could wield a spear in close ranges, better then they could throw. But throwing it was the art part.And yes Kara Te Do is okinawan. It was publicized in Japan by Funakoshi Gichin. I am sure it was there before he was, but he just made it popular..And Yes Sensei8...go figure...Michael Phelps is a martial artist.I am not certain that it was. I believe that it had been shown in Japan, but, 唐手(kara te, Chinese hand) probably would have been a name that the Japanese avoiding learning (Nationalism and all that). Also, by the time that karate was being brought to Japan the era of classical combat had ended. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichi_Geki Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Melee spear fighting was more of a extra curriculum perse. It was common that many people could wield a spear in close ranges, better then they could throw. But throwing it was the art part.And yes Kara Te Do is okinawan. It was publicized in Japan by Funakoshi Gichin. I am sure it was there before he was, but he just made it popular..And Yes Sensei8...go figure...Michael Phelps is a martial artist.I am not certain that it was. I believe that it had been shown in Japan, but, 唐手(kara te, Chinese hand) probably would have been a name that the Japanese avoiding learning (Nationalism and all that). Also, by the time that karate was being brought to Japan the era of classical combat had ended.Kara Te, is the name given to it when it arrived in japan. It was classified by Tomari, Shuri or Naha Te. Or just plain te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanox Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Kara Te, is the name given to it when it arrived in japan. It was classified by Tomari, Shuri or Naha Te. Or just plain te.The character 唐 referes to the Tang dynesty in China, and can be pronounced To (as seen in Tode, referecencing your use of "Te") OR Kara.Also as I said above, the Japanese would not have considered karate a "classic" martial art since such arts were no longer used in combat. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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