Kata, after Kata, after Kata

[hawkfish]

Has anyone else ever had to do this and how do you go through all these kata's one after another without getting too tired. When this happens to me my legs tend to go weak and i loose balance ect, then of course my technique and strength falls. Grrr i guess i just need to build up stamina. Any advice?

Kez

We do this every once in a while and I really enjoy it. We work all the way to our current rank kata and then we keep doing our own kata until the highest rank in the class is finished with their kata.

My technique starts to fail too but I just keep on going.

[The BB of C]

I just had a Kuk Sool Won test. I know it's not necissarily a karate-type of style but it's tests are very similar.

[yingampyang]

Hey guys..this is mainly just a moan lol I just got back in from training and there is a kyu grading coming up. Sensei took it in turns all had to stay up for Kihon Kata, then white belts rested, then all had to do Hiean shodan, then orange belts rest and so on and so on. Of course me (and others) being a dan grade we had to stay up and perform them all, then right at the end there was only us left and we had to do one of our own.

Needless to say we were absolutly bushed

Has anyone else ever had to do this and how do you go through all these kata's one after another without getting too tired. When this happens to me my legs tend to go weak and i loose balance ect, then of course my technique and strength falls. Grrr i guess i just need to build up stamina. Any advice?

Kez

That is alot of kata's , but i had to to it do lol just somthing that has to be done. the best way for me to strengthen up my legs and do all the kata's back in the day lol was to run and slow jog for about an hour- 2 hours . that will help alot it will give you more stamia for sure.

[Justin90]

We do it all the time at our dojo, but im the only one (apart from my instructor) thats any higher than 4th Kyu, so its usually only the first few katas.

[Zanshin]

Always,

Prior to a training session most students at our club will arrive 30 mins before the start and we will all go through everyone of our Katas.

I have on many occasions trained with Shingo Ohgami sensei (Famous Kata Book Author) and I know he trains every Kata (in Every Style)every day.

Do the math. That's a lot.

[GOM]

What is the point in repeating all of those kata? If you are only training in karate for the physical benefits, then that is fine. But for those who are after more, then practising 15 kata over and over is useless IMO. It just seems like extra padding into an already bulging syllabus - i.e kihon, combinations, blocks, stances, strikes, kicks, jiyu-kumite, partnerwork, joint locks, throws, grappling, etc.

A better approach would be to focus on one or two kata, and practise them again and again (as well as the appropriate applicatoins and partnerwork that go along with said kata).

[Zanshin]

What is the point in repeating all of those kata? If you are only training in karate for the physical benefits, then that is fine. But for those who are after more, then practising 15 kata over and over is useless IMO. It just seems like extra padding into an already bulging syllabus - i.e kihon, combinations, blocks, stances, strikes, kicks, jiyu-kumite, partnerwork, joint locks, throws, grappling, etc.

A better approach would be to focus on one or two kata, and practise them again and again (as well as the appropriate applicatoins and partnerwork that go along with said kata).

In our club in training session which are only a couple of hours long, we like to split the lesson down to equal quantities of the 3 K's ie 40 mins Kihon, 40 mins Kata, and 40 mins Kumite. But not neccesarily the same every week.

An unwritten rule of our Dojo is that we always practice Kihon.

Sometimes however we will spend balance of the class drilling down into one Kata and trying to perfect the movements contained within, other times we will do an entire lesson of kumite.

It sort of ballances out in the end.

I see no harm in practicing all of the Katas that you know at least once per day, but maybe you have to do some of this in your own time.

[GOM]

^^ Is the kihon you practise kihon found in kata?

[Zanshin]

^^ Is the kihon you practise kihon found in kata?

Yes, in a simplistic or basic sense.

Most, if not all karate techniques are found in Kata (as thats where they came from), but the difference is the application of movement which is the embodiment of Kata.

I suppose you could look this way - if Kihon is your karate alphabet, Kata is you karate vocabulary and kumite is your free speech.

You leave a huge hole in your Karatye training if you leave it out in my opinion.

[GOM]

^^ So the kihon that you practise are for improving your kata? Why not practise the kata again and again?

There are huge problems if you are not practising kihon in karate, I agree. But if the kihon you are practising is for kata, and for kata performance, then you are wasting 40 minutes of your class time as you are doubling up! Wouldn't you agree? A more sensible approach is to practise the kihon in kata by practising the kata!