G95champ Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Glad to hear it I would like to get back into soem more BJJ. I really just scratched the surface of it. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsdstud Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 One thing that the traditional arts, that you all seem to hate, is tolerance and patience. A lot of the people on here need to learn that. you need to understand that these kids are bettering themselves and that sometimes it takes a little longer for them to learn the stuff. Same thing goes with lower belts, you can't just expect them to jump in and know everything. Belts give people short-term goals. I've written an essay for school about this. If you can't see that 3 months down the road you won't have proof of your growth and achievement, why would you wait around 5 years to finally get a black belt. Some of the best teachers I've had and best students in our state are black belts and under 18. Kevin Kowalczik is ranked #7 in the nation in NASKA. He's 16 and one of the best instructors we've got. Non-black belt instructors are also good because they are easier for the lower belts to connect with. They're striving for the same thing, the ultimate black belt. And you have to work your butt off to get that. And point sparring being for wuss'? I haven't been to a tourney yet where someone didn't at least get knocked out. We had a small (300 competitors) where there were 2 broken legs and a dislocated shoulder (me) all in one day. And this is a semi-contact tourney. Broken noses are an every tourney occasion. cho dan TSD"Every second that you are not training, someone somewhere is training to kick your butt"- Kyo Sa Lyle (my instructor) "Where we going in 5 months?!?!?!" "Cali!!" -Spring Break '04"Life begins at 130 mph". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickChick Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 agreed tsdstud ... but you fail to realize many of our members may not be "traditional" (as we are) .... and so may be more pragmatic than tolerant. I think the arguement here is that yes, it should take longer for children and beginners to "learn the stuff". In the dojang, there is no age, gender, cultural, or racial barriers (ideally!)and all students begin their training at the lowest skill level, usually being at white belt. Belts are 'awarded' to students based on improvement of their own personal skills. For this reason, belts are only just a rough estimate of a student's skill. Since rank is awarded based on number of lessons, performing certain minimum skills, and on making substantial personal improvement, it is more of a social and psychological status than an indicator of fighting ability. One must remember that a higher rank many times indicates the person has higher tenure in the school, not necessarily that the person has a higher skill level than the lower ranks. We fail to realize this fact here ...that skill level does not always equate to what color belt you are wearing. _________________ KarateForums Sensei 1st dan Tae Kwon Do (ITF) Cardio/Fitness Kickboxing Instr. [ This Message was edited by: KickChick on 2002-05-28 10:42 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKD_McGee Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Oh be nice.. get with the times... Affirmative action! Do unto others, as they done to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickChick Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 ... you can add that one to my list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKD_McGee Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Most healthy Males or Agressive Females will agree with the points you just made, but unfortunatly what we want will never happen #1. This isnt Ancient Japan, die by the sword hardcore martial arts training. #2. This isnt David Kerrideans Shaolin Temple lol. #3. This isn't the marines. How do you think Martial Arts instructors stay in business? They can't choose who comes to them, they have to put up with it and make the best of it. I am sure it really pisses off a black belt when they have to teach little kids. But, that is what keeps them in business after all. Do unto others, as they done to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickChick Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 Hey I thought you were leaving McGee! J/K!!! ... yeah well I never said 1, 2 or 3 .... and yes MA is a business, and no I never get po'd teaching my kids ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kempo_Dude Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 Everyone is isck of that, Im sick of that too! :lol: Kempo dude says: Stand up show me what you got, im black belter in kempo, im a Kempo champ. lets see who will win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taikudo-ka Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 Bon, here is something kata can do that just hitting a heavy bag or sparring can't - encode a series of moves, techniques and concepts into a form that allows practise and perfection, then extraction and use of these techniques, in a real fight or in sparring. Motobu said that a kata can encode an entire fighting style... once you know the kata you know all the moves required for that way of fighting. So, YOU, Bon, could create a kata of your own, by taking all of your favorite moves and techniques and stringing them together in a way you think would be effective in finishing off an opponent, or opponents. Then you could practise your moves, anywhere, anytime, by going through your kata. You could also teach other people your fighting style by teaching them your kata. This would enable them to practise and learn all the basic moves. Then you can teach them how to use these moves in combat by sparring with them. Simple. And quite effective. Its really just an alternative to breaking everything up into hundreds of "basic" moves and "combinations". Of course, to tell the truth, I am pissed off at katas that have become nothing more than meaningless war dances myself. Like anything, a concept can become meaningless through misuse. I really don't care about kids. Let them do what they want. If they can handle the moves and discipline, they are welcome to train with me. If they can't, they shouldn't be there, but age is only a very general guide to mental maturity. I've seen 10 year olds who are very dedicated, extremely eager, and perfectly capable of turning into a Yoda-like whirling ball of death when sparring a full-grown man twice their age. Plus this lets then learn valuable courage and self-defense against possible real-life full grown molesters, abductors, older bullies, etc. KarateForums.com - Sempai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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