Does anyone own or have access to train on these bags? I have one of the older model Wavemaster standing bags, but I have not had the opportunity to train on these newer ones.

They look like they would be better for working lower line kicks, like the Thai round kick. Is this the case, in anyone else's experiences? Are they worth trading up to?

We have one of the numbered ones at our dojang. Their length does makes them good for lower strikes and the numbered one we use is good for improving reaction times if you can find someone to shout out at you. Personally I don't really like using them and prefer a bag. If I were you I wouldn't bother upgrading unless your current one is on its last legs or you happen to have spare cash. Maybe its just me but I don't think the investment is worth it if you already have an older one, it'll all depend on how much and what you use it for.

I own an XXL, I think they are great. They "stand up" to more punishment than the old style wavemasters.

Cool, thanks.

What do you mean by a "numbered" bag, DWx?

What do you mean by a "numbered" bag, DWx?

you can get the ones with the targets marked on and numbered

http://www.mykaratestore.com/store/pages-productinfo/product-113/century-wavemaster-xxl-tm-with-scoring-zones.html

Wow, that is kind of a novel idea. Thanks for sharing.

i trained extensively on these things. first of all, they tend to slide around a lot, depending on what kind of floor your using. also, if they are used a lot, the padding weakens and you are basically kicking at the plastic center. i dont think they are the most reliabe bags. i would much rather have a hanging bag.

I would rather have a hanging bag as well, but it just isn't in the cards. So, I go with these.