I read an interesting little article in my Black Belt Magazine by Jim Wagner. He said he does't use the word "stop" in his classes. He says many trained attackers would know that many fighters will stop when they hear the word, thus giving them an advantage. What do you think?

I think I will try telling my partner to "stop" the next time I do some sparring, and see what kind of reaction I get.

in my school, we use the korean word for stop which is "gomahn". i suppose that if a trained martial artist hear "stop" they might hesitate a little, but i think with the adrenaline rush and your heart pounding and your mental focus, you probably wouldnt even hear someone yelling "stop".

thats a good thought... i actually dont know what i would do. But in tournaments its usually a mix between stop, and Yame..

i personally score a point and throw another technique for good measure just before they call stop, so if they do yell stop in a street fight, they would probably still get hit by at least something

I don't believe it works at all.

Probably wouldn't work on me, amusing idea though.

But would you get penalized by the law if you continued to attack even if your assailant had genuinely given up? After yelling "stop" does the attacker still pose a threat or do the roles reverse and the attacker now has to defend themselves from your attacks?

I read an interesting little article in my Black Belt Magazine by Jim Wagner. He said he does't use the word "stop" in his classes. He says many trained attackers would know that many fighters will stop when they hear the word, thus giving them an advantage. What do you think?

I think its fairly trivial. Jim Wagner has said some other interesting things in regards to self defence like: “When I hit someone with my fist, the last thing I worry about is injury. I can get it fixed later at the hospital.”

His way of rationalising the use of closed fisted techniques to the head.

I read an interesting little article in my Black Belt Magazine by Jim Wagner. He said he does't use the word "stop" in his classes. He says many trained attackers would know that many fighters will stop when they hear the word, thus giving them an advantage. What do you think?

I think its fairly trivial. Jim Wagner has said some other interesting things in regards to self defence like: “When I hit someone with my fist, the last thing I worry about is injury. I can get it fixed later at the hospital.”

His way of rationalising the use of closed fisted techniques to the head.

Interesting. I know that Wagner has his own views on things, as we all do. It sounded kind of interesting, though. In his classes, he uses the terminology "cease fire."

He said he does't use the word "stop" in his classes. He says many trained attackers would know that many fighters will stop when they hear the word, thus giving them an advantage.

In his classes, he uses the terminology "cease fire."

By that logic wouldnt criminals and foreign armed forces know that many trained law enforcement, armed forces etc will stop shooting when they hear the word "cease fire" thus giving them an advantage... Not likely.

He said he does't use the word "stop" in his classes. He says many trained attackers would know that many fighters will stop when they hear the word, thus giving them an advantage.

In his classes, he uses the terminology "cease fire."

By that logic wouldnt criminals and foreign armed forces know that many trained law enforcement, armed forces etc will stop shooting when they hear the word "cease fire" thus giving them an advantage... Not likely.

Very good point.