Bassai-Sho

[P.A.L]

We have a Itosu no passai which we call it Passai sho starts with right step, should be same as Bassai Dai. We also have Matsumura no passai which we call it Passai Dai and starts with left step.

[AngelaG]

I personally don't particularly like Bassai Sho, which is a bit weird as I love Bassai Dai.

[Shotokan-kez]

I do like bassai-dai angela but going from 3rd kyu to 1st dan is just like nothing but bassai-dai...kinda loses the excitement of the kata.

[AngelaG]

I do like bassai-dai angela but going from 3rd kyu to 1st dan is just like nothing but bassai-dai...kinda loses the excitement of the kata.

I don't know. I never grew bored of bassai dai. Although I did work on kanku dai, hangetsu, empi and jion as well, so by the time I went for my shodan I knew all five of the choices for shodan.

[rmclain]

Yes, Yasutsune Itosu is credited with the creation of Passai Sho (Bassai So).

R. McLain

[P.A.L]

Yes, Yasutsune Itosu is credited with the creation of Passai Sho (Bassai So).

R. McLain

but passai sho and Bassai sho are not the same, does it mean Itosu created 2 passai? we know Bassai dai is a Itosu kata for sure but i don't think any shorin ryu style practice anything close to Bassai sho which makes me think that is not a Itosu kata.

[Rick_72]

We practice both Passai Sho and Dai in Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu, however, I'd have to re-look at the Bassai's to see how similar they are.

There are different versions of Passai's (based off of discipline), just like I'm sure there are with Bassai's, but I'm pretty sure Passai and Bassai are supposed to be similar in technique. At least that's what's been explained to me. Some styles call them Passai, some Bassai.

[Neo Dragon]

Anyone gota link to a site? I have never seen this one; but I keep running into it when reading.

[Shotokan-kez]

i have it on my pc hun but i don't know how to post a link. Try putting bassai sho on a google search.

[rmclain]

Yes, Yasutsune Itosu is credited with the creation of Passai Sho (Bassai So).

R. McLain

but passai sho and Bassai sho are not the same, does it mean Itosu created 2 passai? we know Bassai dai is a Itosu kata for sure but i don't think any shorin ryu style practice anything close to Bassai sho which makes me think that is not a Itosu kata.

Yes, they are. Bassai So is the Korean pronounciation of "Passai Sho." Now, maybe the Korean version has changed from teacher to teacher in Korea. But, this is originally the same form.

Eizo Shimabukuro (Shorin-Ryu) in Ginoza Village, Okinawa teaches this form.

R. McLain