Hypothetical situations

[Chris05]

hypotheically if i was in a fight in the street and a street thug swung first at me and i injure him pretty badly what would be the outcome? what is the law would i be forced to pay his medical bills,lock up, etc

another hypotetical what happens if your throwing it down with a street thug and you happen to kill him would you be possible sued or go to jail

[bushido_man96]

If you get into a fight, if the police pull up while you are fighting, then it is likely that you both will be arrested and charged with battery. At the very least, you will both be charged with disorderly conduct.

If you injure him to the point that he needs immediate medical attention, you will likely be charged with aggravated battery.

Battery is intentionally or recklessly causing harm to another person. It becomse aggravated battery when you cause great bodily harm, i.e., you end up sending them to the hospital.

Whether or not who started the fight, and who is at fault, and to what extent is decided by a judge.

If you would hypothetically kill someone in a fight, you could be charged with some level of murder. To determine it justifiable homicide, you would have to go to court to prove it. In the mean time, you would be spending time in jail, possibly without the ability to bond.

The bottom line is that fighting in general is just a bad deal.

[blackxpress]

Unless you're looking for trouble, the chance you'll ever get into a fight with a street thug is pretty slim. Should it happen, I doubt you'll be worrying too much about the law. You'll be too busy trying to keep him from kicking your butt.

[ps1]

It's impossible to say for sure what the ramifications will be. As bushido_man96 so correctly pointed out, fighting can only end up in a bad situation.

You will have to look into your city, county, and state laws. Additionally, you will want to see what the precedent is that your local courts have established. That is, in similar cases, how do the judges usually rule.

Here are some good rules of thumb:

1. A woman defending against a man who is larger than her will likely be safe (assuming no death).

2. Any person with no weapon defending against someone with a weapon will be looked upon favorably.

3. If you kill anyone, no matter the circumstances, you will probably face charges. You'll need to defend your actions in court.

4. Being sued is a totally seperate matter. This is handled in civil court. Expect to face a civil suit after the completion of a criminal suit.

[shukokai2000]

hypotheically if i was in a fight in the street and a street thug swung first at me and i injure him pretty badly what would be the outcome? what is the law would i be forced to pay his medical bills,lock up, etc

another hypotetical what happens if your throwing it down with a street thug and you happen to kill him would you be possible sued or go to jail

The law here in England has changed, you do not have to wait to be struck upon to defend oneself, it is called a pre-emptive strike on your behalf. If you feel there is no way out and your in danger. you have to use it.

With regards to if you kill him, this is a tricky one, it here may come down to man slaughter in court.

The United Kingdom has some very un-defined laws pertaining to sel defence. The law themselves seem fully clear, what are NOT so clear are the interpretations of these laws.

Put as simply as we can for the general understanding requred by YOU as a self- defence instructor, the law states that you are entitled to defend your self using reasonable force.

The difficulty here is the definition of reasonable.... what is reasonable?

If for example a 13 year old lighty built girl was attacked by a 20 stone man intent on rape, and in defending herself, she stabbed him with a pair of scissors ONCE, which allowed her to escape, but he bled to death. Now most people would assume she did the right thing and call it REASONABLE force in that instance.

However, turn the tables, and have the scool girl attack the 20 stone man... would it be reasonable for HIM to defend himself using scissors, Obviously not..

the words REASONABLE therefore is open to interpretations, so provided you try to do the least you can to get away and home safely, you are probably within the law..

Edited November 25, 2006 by shukokai2000

[shukokai2000]

And old saying here

I'D RATHER BE TRIED BY 12, THAN CARRIED BY SIX

[bushido_man96]

And old saying here

I'D RATHER BE TRIED BY 12, THAN CARRIED BY SIX

Oooh, that is a good quote!

[Shotokan-kez]

My signature says it all! I would definatly try my best to walk away from any kind of trouble, unless harm was going to come of my sons or other family. I am lucky to never have been in that kind of situation before.

I was actully disscussing this with my sensei a few weeks back. I asked him what would happen to me if i used my karate in a situation and seriously or even just midly hurt someone. He said that i could still be charged with GBH weather it was self defence or not, basically because being a martial artist then i should have some amount of controll.

[little kicker]

not sure here in wales were aloud to use resonable force.my ftahers sesni (Whos a woman)ONce knocked out 3 guys in a bar

[bushido_man96]

I have heard stories about martial artists/military personnel being held to a higher standard, due to their training and experience. I don't know how accurate that is, maybe someone could give me some ideas on this?