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You have to take these stories with a grain of salt. Nobody will ever know for sure who invented Wing Chun. It has evolved over many decades and stories have been embelished and retold. I for one don't care where it came from. All I care about is how well the concepts work.

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Is it not quite nice, how the story of wing chun's roots in which they share their version of, feels the need to mention that their method of wing chun descends from the only man to learn the entire system from Tan Sau Ng. Where as the others only were given pieces of the sysytem. So is this yet another claim to the wing chun throne?

"We work with being, but non-being is what we use" Tao Te Ching

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You have to take these stories with a grain of salt. Nobody will ever know for sure who invented Wing Chun. It has evolved over many decades and stories have been embelished and retold. I for one don't care where it came from. All I care about is how well the concepts work.

You are right. The WC history has more holes than swiss cheese, at least when it comes to its origins. The important part of the story is the effectiveness of this art.

Traditional-Fist

Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways".

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Is it not quite nice, how the story of wing chun's roots in which they share their version of, feels the need to mention that their method of wing chun descends from the only man to learn the entire system from Tan Sau Ng. Where as the others only were given pieces of the sysytem. So is this yet another claim to the wing chun throne?

Yes, but there is something in this. There are schools of Wing Chun that use one type of punch, that is the central line vertical punch. There are schools that use very small amount of kicks. Other schools do not delve into Chi Kung exercises (a fundemental part of any major kung fu practise).

On the other hand there are Wing Chun schools/lineages that have a great variety of punches, kicks, grappling (both stand-up and on the ground) and chi kung. Obviously some things are missing from some lineages, but WHY?

All I am saying that this is an area that requires further research.

Traditional-Fist

Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways".

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This was a very interesting article, and I love reading history anyways. There could be some things in the article to take as legitimate. There could be a lot of different branches on the tree of Wing Chun, so you have to gather as much info as possible, and then start sorting out the material.

Very interesting. Thanks for the post.

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I agree that the history of Wing Chun has many variations. Some say that it was created aboard a ship where the space was limited (notice the stances and foot work in Wing Chun). Some even say that Wing Chun evolved from Hung Gar. No one knows for sure, but what really matters is the practical concepts that the style entails.

Gong Kiu, Yau Kiu, Bik Kiu, Jik Kiu, Fun Kiu, Ding Kiu, Chieun Kiu, Tai Kiu, Lau Kiu, Wan Kiu, Jai Kiu, Deng Kiu.

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This is a very interesting article indeed. Personally, I think it makes more sense than the more common Wing Chun history where Ng Mui teaches the art to Yim Wing Chun. I especially liked the idea that Wing Chun is a place, not a person (Wing Chun Tong - The Everalasting Spring Hall). However, I have never studied Wing Chun history and my thoughts can not be backed by hard facts.

- Robin

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