sprawl-and-brawl

[TriangleMan]

something i've noticed recently watching UFC, they'll often introduce a guy as a striker, and he'll go and submit someone. then they'll introduce someone as a submissions specialist and he'll go and knock someone out. i love it when the BJJ black belts just mount some guy and whack him the face instead of bothering with submissions. it might just be me, but i'm sure most of the time the fighters win doing the opposite of what they're best at.

Ground and pound is something thats determined by your grappling skill on the ground, not your striking skill on the feet. The positions of jiu jitsu give you the option of throwing strikes. Jiu Jitsu guys have always thrown strikes, they've just always preferred to do it on the ground where their opponent can not effectively hit them back. If you look at pictures from Helios old challenge matches 50+ years ago in Brazil, everyone he fought emerged from the fight looking like they went through a meat grinder. If you want a more recent example, just look at any of Rickson Gracies matches- he always employed getting the mount on an opponent and pounding him from the top or the back.

Ground and Pound is something that jiu jitsu fighters always did, but it was often overlooked due to their submissions prowess.

[BLueDevil]

Hello all,

Lately I've been watching some of Chuck Liddell's fights and I'm impressed. He's a great example of how a striker can do well in top MMA. Now, I know the guy used to be a top collegiate wrestler and all that, but he is an obviously trained striker. Striking is what he does best.

Striking is NOT what he does best... he was one of the best wrestlers in the country... his grappling is what makes his striking so good. Think about it - if he couldn't defend the takedowns or was not good at getting back to his feet, how well would he be able to use his strikes?

I disagree, while he is a great wrestler, striking IS what he does best. If his wrestling was better than his striking he would probably be wrestling at an Olympic or Pan Am level(i.e. Randy Couture). Now it is his choice to not compete at this level but he is a better striker than he is a wrestler and Couture proved that in there first meeting.

I know he beat Randy in the next 2 match-ups but 90% of those fights outcomes are from Chucks lateral movements.

[ThePhenom]

chuck is an excellant spraw-and-brawl fighter but he wouldn't be able to be that fighter without wrestling, no one style will work to well alone...

[CrazyAZNRocker]

After watching UFC 65, you might want to add Georges St. Pierre on the list of great sprawl and brawlers.

[ThePhenom]

After watching UFC 65, you might want to add Georges St. Pierre on the list of great sprawl and brawlers.

great everything!!!!!